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I find that I could sit for hours if I wanted to, to really run RI out. I haven't got the patience for that, so work on Level 2 is consistent and slow.
> From: trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org > Subject: TROM Digest, Vol 135, Issue 10 > To: trom@lists.newciv.org > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:00:04 +0000 > > Send TROM mailing list submissions to > trom@lists.newciv.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > trom-ow...@lists.newciv.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of TROM digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE Art of War Edits (The Resolution of Mind list) > 2. Case Update (The Resolution of Mind list) > 3. Re: Case Update (The Resolution of Mind list) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 11:12:32 -0500 > From: The Resolution of Mind list <trom@lists.newciv.org> > To: trom@lists.newciv.org > Subject: [TROM1] RE Art of War Edits > Message-ID: <mailman.139202.1453048528.1340.t...@lists.newciv.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Pete, I sent you an email, thank you. > > colleen > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160117/5c543b24/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 20:59:47 -0200 > From: The Resolution of Mind list <trom@lists.newciv.org> > To: trom@lists.newciv.org > Subject: [TROM1] Case Update > Message-ID: <mailman.139325.1453072965.1340.t...@lists.newciv.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello! > > Nice to hear from you all and from the new trommer. > > Last year I was on a good disciplined schedule doing level 2 but I had a > small stress crisis with PT issues and I was only being able to do RI > during that time. I also detected a major mistake skipping the repeat part > in Level 2 (I thought I had to do differences until no change then > similarities until no change and that would be it; I didn't go back to > check if more changes were still available). After these two hindrances I > engaged in some 'fun' activities and lost some of my speed. I'm currently > trying to recover my pace again. Level 2 is running somewhat slower and I'm > trying to disengage from the fun activities. > > One thing I didn't reported back from my case is about the "no more change" > point. Apparently it evolves as you make progress. In the beginning my > guide would be the calmness of mind that I'd achieve during RI - I didn't > have any other 'clear' reference point. Then, after I got better and my > mind was pretty calm in general the "no more change" point was either a > small headache or the drill would suddenly become hard to continue. The > latter is similar to one of The Pilot's description of end phenomena for > some types of exercise. And this is the best description I can give so far. > > Interesting chinese proverb I've stumbled upon last month: > > "If you must play, decide on three things at the start: the rules of the > game, the stakes and the quitting time." > > Marcus > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160117/3af3766c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:19:18 -0800 > From: The Resolution of Mind list <trom@lists.newciv.org> > To: trom@lists.newciv.org > Subject: Re: [TROM1] Case Update > Message-ID: <mailman.139340.1453077736.1340.t...@lists.newciv.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Marcus > Good to hear from you again. > You have made a good observation that a two flow process must be repeated > until there is no new material appearing on both flows for 15 minutes of > running. So run flow A till no more change for 15 minutes of running then run > flow B till no more change for 15 minutes of running then run A again and > repeat A and B until you get no change on either with 15 minutes of running. > > I am concerned that you get a headache after running a process. This is a > change and needs to be run out. Do test for overrun but if you are not sure > it is overrun do some RI, then continue the process. The "getting hard to > run" sounds like an end point has been overrun so I would move on the the > next flow or process you planed to run. > > Interesting Chinese proverb. But since we came into this universe to play > games where there are no rules beyond the To Know goals and with no time > limit to the game it might be difficult to apply. > > Keep on TROMing > > Pete McLaughlin > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 17, 2016, at 2:59 PM, The Resolution of Mind list > > <trom@lists.newciv.org> wrote: > > > > ************* > > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > > ************ > > Hello! > > > > Nice to hear from you all and from the new trommer. > > > > Last year I was on a good disciplined schedule doing level 2 but I had a > > small stress crisis with PT issues and I was only being able to do RI > > during that time. I also detected a major mistake skipping the repeat part > > in Level 2 (I thought I had to do differences until no change then > > similarities until no change and that would be it; I didn't go back to > > check if more changes were still available). After these two hindrances I > > engaged in some 'fun' activities and lost some of my speed. I'm currently > > trying to recover my pace again. Level 2 is running somewhat slower and I'm > > trying to disengage from the fun activities. > > > > One thing I didn't reported back from my case is about the "no more change" > > point. Apparently it evolves as you make progress. In the beginning my > > guide would be the calmness of mind that I'd achieve during RI - I didn't > > have any other 'clear' reference point. Then, after I got better and my > > mind was pretty calm in general the "no more change" point was either a > > small headache or the drill would suddenly become hard to continue. The > > latter is similar to one of The Pilot's description of end phenomena for > > some types of exercise. And this is the best description I can give so far. > > > > Interesting chinese proverb I've stumbled upon last month: > > > > "If you must play, decide on three things at the start: the rules of the > > game, the stakes and the quitting time." > > > > Marcus > > _______________________________________________ > > TROM mailing list > > TROM@lists.newciv.org > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > TROM@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > End of TROM Digest, Vol 135, Issue 10 > *************************************
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