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David,
thanks for "food for thought" on this issue of native state, nirvana, ...
I'm glad you're talking to me. I'm - hopefully - not going to repeat past
errors
of which I'm too well aware. You know what I'm referring to.
I'm sincerely grateful for the lessons you taught me ... unknowingly or
not.
I've said it once - and it is one of the few things I said to you which
I'm willing to repeat unaltered - "it's good to have you around here."
In prayers I do not believe and thus I do not pray, but if I would I
sure would include you in them. So, instead I borrow Colleen's wonderful
closing sentence:
"I am postulating the best outcome for you."
Robin
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Robin,
Briefly....
Based on what I learned from research and my experience:
The true state of clear or nirvana is the same as the kingdom of heaven
and the kingdom of God.
Based on my experienced, what is required is, a perfect set of ethics
and
adherence to.
And a noble saintly Godly character.
You have to clear out all engrams which means: go genuinely clear.
(There are no genuine bonafide clears in scn. It is impossible under that
system (or on that bridge,..... that bridge is a con job and a trap.
Hubbard perverted it for his own evil game.)
You have to exhaust all the evil and asshole traits in you and not shit
on
anyone, and desire not to play games.
The road to the kingdom of heaven is straight and narrow.
(You don't stop at the road side bar for a cold one on the way there.)
Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.
And Jesus said; No one comes unto the Father except through me.
David
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Hi David,
The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain it
(stay in it).
Yes, I guess you make a good point here.
Perhaps one has to go through some kind of hells first in order to
value this state properly?
We'll see.
Robin
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Robin,
Thank you for your reply and input.
Quoting you:
*I guess it does not end (in our terms) and may theoretically lead to
'native state'. Which we once had but did not find too desirable
because
it's no fun.*
I had a couple of very good releases in years past, (two weeks each)
where
I would say I was in something that I would call native state or
certainly
very close it.
It was amazing, exciting and incredible fun, the ultimate fun, the
ultimate existence.
The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain
it
(stay in it).
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I see "native state" or Nirvana much more explicitly as:
To simply Be or exist
Totally happy which means lacking for nothing, having everything I want
already no matter how little that may be.
Having no desire to do anything
With good will toward others. No need to get anything from others or
force anything on others.
So the simple statement is
to Be with total happiness and good will toward all.
It is not difficult to achieve for at least short periods of time. With
practice we can remain in the state longer and with much processing of
TROM maintain the state permanently.
We also achieve this state while in dreamless sleep. Dreaming is usually
a games condition so not Nirvana.
Sincerely
Pete Mclaughlin
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Robin,
Briefly....
Based on what I learned from research and my experience:
The true state of clear or nirvana is the same as the kingdom of
heaven and the kingdom of God.
Based on my experienced, what is required is, a perfect set of ethics
and adherence to.
And a noble saintly Godly character.
You have to clear out all engrams which means: go genuinely clear.
(There are no genuine bonafide clears in scn. It is impossible under
that system (or on that bridge,..... that bridge is a con job and a
trap. Hubbard perverted it for his own evil game.)
You have to exhaust all the evil and asshole traits in you and not shit
on anyone, and desire not to play games.
The road to the kingdom of heaven is straight and narrow.
(You don't stop at the road side bar for a cold one on the way there.)
Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.
And Jesus said; No one comes unto the Father except through me.
David
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The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain
it
(stay in it).
Yes, I guess you make a good point here.
Perhaps one has to go through some kind of hells first in order to
value this state properly?
We'll see.
Robin
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Robin,
Thank you for your reply and input.
Quoting you:
*I guess it does not end (in our terms) and may theoretically lead to
'native state'. Which we once had but did not find too desirable
because
it's no fun.*
I had a couple of very good releases in years past, (two weeks each)
where
I would say I was in something that I would call native state or
certainly
very close it.
It was amazing, exciting and incredible fun, the ultimate fun, the
ultimate existence.
The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain
it
(stay in it).
David
.
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