Blainer)  That was very informative.  Thanks for your time to write it.  

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:58:28 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Blainer wrote:
> > Well, OK.  I guess the answer is "yes."  That won't
> > cost me any money to say that.  It is just that I am
> > not sure what you mean when you include the word
> > "Trinity."  If this word has just general meaning, OK,
> > but if it has some special meaning, in reference to some
> > thing or event in particular, then I have to be more cautious.
> > I do believe Jesus is God's Son, and that he is God
> > because he is one of the Godhead--made up of three
> > individuals--the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost,
> > which is ONE GOD.
> 
> Blaine, I'm going to try real quickly to explain this.  
> Unfortunately, I
> think you might reverse yourself when you hear the answer.  :-)
> 
> The word "Trinity" historically does have a special meaning.  It is 
> a word
> meant to designate a Godhead that, while being 3 persons, is also of 
> the
> SAME substance.
> 
> The entire argument between the Arians and the Trinitarians hinged 
> on a
> single letter in one Greek word that described the relationship 
> between
> Jesus and the heavenly Father.  This is kind of ironic for a subject 
> of such
> supposed magnitude, especially when you consider that the single 
> letter in
> dispute is the letter iota.  So the whole debate rests upon a single 
> iota!
> LOL  Arius taught that Jesus was a created being, so that he is our 
> Creator
> and we worship him as such, but technically, he is not deity.  The 
> word
> favored by most Arians was "homoi-ousius" which means, "of like 
> essence."
> The word favored by the Trinitarians as "homo-ousius" which means 
> ("of the
> same essence").   The question was if Jesus was of like substance / 
> essence
> as the Father, or if he was of the same substance / essence as the 
> Father.
> 
> There was a third view called Sabellianism, but this was rejected as
> heretical prior to this debate between the Arians and the 
> Trinitarians.  In
> fact, the Trinitarians were accused by the Arians as being 
> Sabellians with
> their view of three persons being of the same substance.  
> Sabellianism is
> basically the "Oneness" teaching that some Christians embrace today, 
> which
> considers the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit as one person.
> 
> The Mormon view technically is kind of like the Arian view.  Arius
> worshipped Jesus just like Mormons do, and he considered Jesus as 
> the
> creator of all the earth, and he viewed Jesus himself being a 
> created
> person.  The difference is that Arius thought that because Jesus was
> created, he technically was not deity.  This was important to Arius 
> in order
> to distinguish themselves as a monotheistic religion rather than a
> polytheistic religion.  Mormons say that Jesus is deity, apparently
> considering themselves to embrace a henotheistic form of polytheism.
> 
> It's kind of interesting that Arians and Trinitarians divide over a 
> single
> iota, but Mormons seem to find a division even between this 
> division.  How
> thin can the pie be cut before it just crumbles?
> 
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
> 
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