Izzy wrote: > I am personally suspicious of anyone who accuses > others of being liars and manipulators. My first > impulse is to want facts; not innuendos.
Take it easy. I think there is a basic misunderstanding here. Marlin is new to our forum, so let's not chase him off with a simple misunderstanding. I understood Marlin to be speaking about what is going on in the heavenlies. In other words, the liar is Satan or demons which orchestrate what happens around us. What we see physically is but a shadow of what is happening spiritually. If there is a liar or conspiracy, I think he places it in the prince of the power of the air, not in some unnamed person. I could be wrong, but that is how I was taking his comments. Now that might also be reflected in some physical person, but I took Marlin's response to my question to mean that his eyes are staying strictly on the spiritual things. We must keep in mind that the political powers and changes in the political landscape are all orchestrated by spiritual warfare. This is revealed in the book of Daniel, and also in the book of Revelation. Whatever the case, if Marlin chooses to use veiled speech to speak of things, he is free to do so. Don't stone him just because you don't understand. That's what people tried to do to Jesus who spoke in parables so that only some could understand. Remember too what Paul said to the Corinthians, "But we speak the wisdom of God IN A MYSTERY, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory." (1Cor. 2:7) And also: "Which things also we speak, NOT IN THE WORDS WHICH MAN'S WISDOM TEACHETH, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." (1Cor. 2:13-15) Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
