Glenn wrote: > I will give you my two bits worth. It is you, Martin. > You have a party spirit. You are the one who can't > worship with others on a continuing basis. > You are the one who gives me the impression if we > can't understand your questions without answers, > we are not spiritual. > You are the one who has the party spirit. That's > how I see it. If I am wrong, then forget it.
LOL. Glenn, you ARE wrong. But why do you come in like a bull in the china shop and then tell Marlin to just forget it? As I see it, Marlin is very careful with his words and answers the way he does exactly because he is attacked by Christians like Glenn Tabor for the beliefs that he has. Is that at least possible in your mind, Glenn? Laura wrote: > I don't know anyone who is a Christian who can get > by without worshipping on a regular basis with other > believers and still maintain their walk with God. > No denomination is perfect, no church is perfect and > no pastor is perfect BUT we serve a perfect God and > He told us to assemble together. Well, I don't think I agree with you about no church or pastor being perfect, but that is another subject. I would like to say that God not just told us to assemble together, but he also told us to assemble on the seventh day, which is Saturday. Do you do that Laura? I'm not saying this to insist you meet only on Saturday. I'm trying to get you to think. I'm just trying to point out that the subject you are addressing may not be so cut and dry. It may be that Marlin actually better observes the admonition of Scripture not to forsake the assembling together of the believer than you do. I don't know, because I don't know him, but I do know that the admonition not to forsake the assemblying together of the believers is not as simple as you seem to imply. Consider, for example, that the early believers as well as Jesus Christ himself, generally assembled in the Jewish synagogues and in the Jewish temple. We would think that they felt that was important, and they certainly had Scriptural authority for this tradition. Would you take words from them concerning this gathering together in the Jewish meeting place as important as believers meeting together on the first day of the week? Have you ever considered also that perhaps Hebrews 10:25 applies to Hebrews assemblying together on Saturday with other Jews, to provoke to love and good works, rather than to the situation that you seem to have in mind, which would be Sunday morning "worship"? Today, we kind of have a reversed situation. The religious powers that be are "Christian" instead of "Jewish," but there are problems there, as evidenced by your statement that there is no perfect church and no perfect pastor. Observing the directive to assemble ourselves together might actually be made more difficult by the present institutions of religion. If Marlin, for example, meets on Saturday morning in his home with a few other families who are believers in Christ, how does his observance of assembling together compare with the "Christian" who attends a thousand member church every Sunday morning but does not get involved in the lives of anyone attending there? When we consider the entertainment methodology used in present day Christianity, how much "provoking each other to love and good works" actually takes place? And if that isn't taking place, then is it really observing God's directive not to forsake assembling ourselves together with other believers when that phrase, "to provoke unto love and good works," is included in the directive not to forsake assembling together? Something for everyone to think about: how can a person share his beliefs and opinions if he is attacked before he can even express his views? Are beliefs and opinions really something that should be kept personal and private? If not, how can unusual or contrary views be expressed without causing a big fight? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.