From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy wrote: > why can't he be the same species as the first Adam > before the fall and when faced with the same temptations > overcome leading to life and hope for the rest of us > rather than fall into sin and disobedience....
So your idea is that Jesus was created in the same condition as the first Adam? Here are some problems with this idea: 1. If Jesus was in the same condition as the first Adam BEFORE the fall, then having never sinned, Jesus would be immortal and incapable of being killed. Judy: He was incapable of being killed. When the Jews tried to stone Him he walked right through their midst. Noone took His life from Him. He willingly layed it down. 2. The Scriptures teach that Jesus was of the seed of Abraham and of the seed of David (Heb. 2:16, 2 Tim. 2:8, John 7:42, Romans 1:3). This would not be true if Jesus was created de nouveau as a unique creature. Judy: The word "seed" in scripture #4060 in Strongs comes from the Greek word sperma (the male sperm) and we know there was no male sperm involved in the birth of Jesus. He was 'born of the woman' and fathered by God. 3. If Jesus was as you suggest, he would be genetically perfect and beautiful, without moles, freckles, or genetic mutations of any kind. The Scriptures indicate that Jesus physically was not more beautiful or desirable than other men. "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him" (Isaiah 53:2 KJV). Furthermore, the Scriptures are suggestive that in his resurrected state, his physical appearance was somewhat different (Luke 24:31-32, John 21:12). Judy: I wouldn't think his physical appearance would have much to do with anything the genetic effect of sin has a debilitating effect on the human body much worse than moles and freckles. 4. If Jesus was made in a unique un-fallen state, this would lead us to think that perhaps he should start a new race of people through physical reproduction. He did not do this. Instead, it appears that he was made with the same flesh as the rest of us, so that those who would believe upon him would be delivered spiritually immediately with the hope of a physical salvation to come later through the resurrection. Judy: It's not our flesh he came to redeem; He died on the cross and paid the price for our redemption so that we could be born of the Spirit, and led by the Spirit becoming part of a new creation. a spiritual priesthood zealous of good works. 5. If Jesus was not like the rest of us, then his resurrection from the dead is not really a firstfruits from among men (1 Cor. 15:20-23). Without my being physically descended from him, his resurrection would have no impact upon the idea that I might be resurrected. On the other hand, knowing that he had the same flesh as me and was just as much a man as I am, then I have confidence in his promise that I too will be resurrected just like he was. Judy: It is the firstfruits from among men because without his death, burial and resurrection there would be no new creation and the body we now live in will not go to heaven, we receive a transformed body. The reason Jesus could not have the same flesh as us is because the life of the flesh is in the blood. He would not have been fit to be the sacrifice with Adamic blood running through his veins. His blood had to be pure, holy, precious. His blood cleanses the consciences and washes white as snow. All other blood defiles. Grace adn Peace, Judy ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
