DAVEH: But I think Ruben wants me to go out on the street with him. In all due respect to Ruben, I hope he enjoys his work (he seems to), and do not begrudge him his dues. We will all be justly rewarded, Ruben and co. included. Each to his own, I would say. Let God judge, not me. But just for the record, last year, I gave away over four K to the poor, helping them get on their feet. I fast at least once a month in order to save up part of that money (see Luke 18:12). I pay more than that into the coffers of the LDS Church for a tithe. I served for two years as a missionary to the poor of Salt Lake City, and was greatly impressed with the vast resources the LDS Church has built up for the sake of serving other's needs since it was organized in 1830.
Judy: I don't know about Ruben but just reading the above DaveH reminds me of the parable of the 'Publican and the Pharisee' in Luke 18:10. There is nothing you or any institution can do to justify yourselves before God. DAVEH: It owns farms and ranches (it owns the largest cattle ranch in the US, in Florida) throughout the world, it has food and clothing warehouses and employment centers all over the world, for the poor and the needy. It has manufacturing centers, canning centers, food outlets comparable to modern supermarkets--you name it, the Church has it. All it asks is that if you are physically and mentally capable, you donate some time and labor for what you receive. Judy: What kind of time and labor? Time to listen to doctrine and labor to further the Mormon gospel? DAVEH: A lot of people just go get the stuff and never bother to work it off, of course--seems to be par for the course for people who are either fringe LDS or non members. They seem to have that "take-take-take" mentality inculcated into them by the world. Judy: You mean there are no dishonest church members who are LDS? DAVEH: They need to learn that by giving, we receive. Judy: I don't know if God honors giving to get. DAVEH: Well, let Ruben and his boys, who are young and full of vim and vigor, go out and picket the Massachusetts Courts. More power to them. The only thing I despise is when they waste their time picketting the LDS confines--we don't need it.. Judy: Apparently they think you do - you wouldn't want them to discriminate would you? DAVEH: although it does seem to focus a lot of attention on us which we otherwise might not get. I am sure more than one person has joined the LDS Church after being introduced to it by the Steet Preachers Inc. LOL. Judy: Is your underwear all that appealing DAVEH? irebukeu wrote: GREAT POINT KEVIN. IF THESE MORMONS BELIEVED IN THE BIBLE, I WOULD GIVE THEM A VERSE LIKE THIS; "Therefore to him that KNOWETH to DO GOOD, and DOETH IT NOT, to him IT IS SIN" James 4:17 WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT US TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NOT DO?? "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; BUT THEY THEMSELVES WILL NOT MOVE THEM WITH ONE OF THEIR FINGERS" Matthew 23:4 ============================== Seems to me the gay pride parade went right by the temple last year. Where were the LDS? MIA ! Street preachers were there. SP's preach at diverse events. (No pun intended) Sports, religious, festivals, concerts, parades, political, did I miss any? Talk is cheap Blaine. What are you going to do about gay "marriage"? DAVEH: Hey Blaine......These guys are right.....best that you not perform any! <VBG> -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.