I believe it would have been sin rather than fallen flesh that
would have disqualified Him to be the atoning sacrafice. His victory over
the fallen flesh is part of what qualifies Him to be our perfect high
priest (Heb 4:15).

vincent j. fulton

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 01:33:16 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> You will need to prove it to me by the scriptures pastorbob,
> Yes he needed a flesh body but he didn't need for it to be fallen 
> flesh.
> In fact, fallen flesh would disqualify him to be the only kind of
> sacrifice 
> God the Father would accept, that is one without spot or blemish. 
> The
> OT bulls and goats were part of fallen creation but they were 
> temporary.
> For a start the bloodline of the first Adam would never be called 
> "holy"
> 
> Judyt
> 
> From: "Pastor Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Greetings jandg,
> 
> "everyone born of the flesh is born in sin." I think it was Vince 
> who
> said 
> something like That's right. That's why he had to get the same flesh 
> in
> him.
> 
> Grace and Truth,
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus had the same sinful flesh 
> we
> have.
> >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:20:17 -0500
> >
> >Welcome to TT Pastor Bob at Hotmail, glad to have you with us
> >even if we can't agree.  Jesus isn't your blood relative. He was 
> not
> >born after the flesh.  Actually you are agreeing with the Pharisees 
> of
> >John 9:24 - the ones who told the man born blind, "we know that 
> this
> >man is a sinner" - No matter how you try to rationalize, everyone 
> born
> >of the flesh is born in sin.
> >
> >From: "Pastor Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >I've been watching this discussion for a long time and feel 
> compelled to
> >right you now and give you some encouragement.
> >
> >Wow! Good stuff, very visual. What a powerful summary of the Gospel 
> of
> >our
> >Lord. You've spent some time in the Word, haven't you? Your 
> association
> >with
> >Jesus' blood running through our veins is especially on the mark. 
> The
> >go'el
> >or "kinsman redeemer" of the OT had to be a blood relative. Jesus 
> is our
> eemer because he is our Blood relative. Through Mary back to Eve and
> >forward again to every one of us. Now we see why Eve is the "giver 
> of
> >life"
> >(that's what her name means). What Jesus did in his flesh, he did 
> in all
> >flesh "One died for all, Therefore all died". He had to be like 
> sinful
> >flesh
> >to condemn sin in the flesh (rom 8:3). And the Son who knew no sin 
> from
> >eternity had to be made sin (nature) so that we could become
> >righteousness
> >in him (II cor 2:21).
> >
> >Before I go I want to encourage you, Bill. Difficult people abound. 
> You
> >were
> >right in, I think it was your first email. This is a difficult 
> doctrine
> >for
> >dyed-in-the-wool types to grasp. But oh so transformational when 
> they
> do!
> >
> >And you're right, the way to deal with difficult people is to 
> forgive
> >them.
> >That is loving them.
> >
> >Oh, I was really moved by your Psalms 22 interpretation the other 
> day.
> >Keep
> >on teaching. This stuff is contagious.
> >
> >To His Glory,
> >
> >Robert Trump
> >
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