I agree with you, it is helpful if a source is quoted.
Poor Ol Jo (thye AUTHOR) LOST 116 pages of the Book o Mormon
How can I ever Trust it again?
Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks, Kevin. You are faster than a speeding bullet. Your testimony is more
powerful than a locomotive. You are able to leap tall Moroni's in a single
bound.
Perry
>From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Kingdom Come
>Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:07:10 -0800 (PST)
>
>http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/10/4
>D&C 10:43
>
>http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/bom_early_problems/bompreface.htm
>
>the quote is from the 1830 BoM preface:
>
>PREFACE.
>
>TO THE READER—
>
> As many false reports have been circulated respecting the following
>work, and also many unlawful measures taken by the evil designing persons
>to destroy me, and also the work, I would inform you that I translated, by
>the gift and power of God, and caused to be written, one hundred and
>sixteen pages, the which I took from the Book of Lehi, which was an account
>abridged from the plates of Lehi, by the hand of Mormon; which said
>account, some person or persons have stolen and kept from me,
>notwithstanding my utmost exertions to recover it again—and being commanded
>of the Lord that I should not translate the same over again, for Satan had
>put it into their hearts to tempt the Lord their God, by altering the
>words, that they did read contrary from that which I translated and caused
>to be written; and if I should bring forth the same words again, or, in
>other words, if I should translate the same over again, they would publish
>that which they had stolen, and Satan would stir up the
> hearts of this generation, that they might not receive this work: but
>behold, the Lord said unto me, I will not suffer that Satan shall
>accomplish his evil design in this thing: therefore thou shalt translate
>from the plates of Nephi, until ye come to that which ye have translated,
>which ye have retained; and behold ye shall publish it as the record of
>Nephi; and thus I will confound those who have altered my words. I will not
>suffer that they shall destroy my work; yea, I will shew unto them that my
>wisdom is greater than the cunning of the Devil. Wherefore, to be obedient
>unto the commandments of God, I have, through his grace and mercy,
>accomplished that which he hath commanded me respecting this thing. I would
>also inform you that the plates of which hath been spoken, were found in
>the township of Manchester, Ontario county, New-York.
>
> THE AUTHOR.
>
>
>Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>Blaine,
>
>You said, "This is simple wisdom--As the Lord says, "My wisdom is greater
>than the cunning of the devil." Since we do not all accept the same books,
>or use the same translations, can you please give a reference when you post
>a quote?
>
>Thanks,
>Perry
>
>
> >From: "Blaine Borrowman"
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Kingdom Come
> >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:59:03 -0700
> >
> >Blaine: But the early members of the Church of Jesus Chrst of Latter-day
> >Saints did try the United Order, Terry, and it failed eventually for many
> >of the same reasons it failed in the original Church--mostly persecution,
> >but also some saints were not ready for such. We also believe it is the
> >order of Heaven, which means sooner or later, we will all have to live
>it.
> >It is what we consider part of the "higher law." Tithing is a part of the
> >"lesser law," as you pointed out, but as a substitute, it is the only one
> >we seem able to handle at this time. This is simple wisdom--As the Lord
> >says, "My wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil." We accept his
> >wisdom in this matter, even if you as a non-participant do not.
> >BUT--We also believe that until a person actually tries something, he has
> >no place in criticizing it. Have you ever tried paying tithing? I recall
> >a man who did, even though he was not a member of my church, and he
>became
> >very prosperous--he attributed it to the Lord's having blessed him for
> >living this law. I believe he was a Protestant, like some of you on TT.
> > Try it!! You'll like it!!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Terry Clifton"
> >To:
> >Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:00 PM
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Kingdom Come
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Blaine: The History of the Mormon Church explains this. Briefly,
> >the
> > > > Church was at first commanded to live the United Order--having all
> > > things in
> > > > common--but as time went by, apparently this was too difficult for
> >many
> > > to
> > > > do. The Lord then relented, and told them they could live a lesser
> > > > law--that of the tithe. Not so strange after all, considering this
> >is
> > > > essentially what happened in the early church
> > > =====================================
> > > I believe Blaine, if I remember correctly, that the church in
> >Jerusalem
> > > was the only one of all the new testament churches to have all things
>in
> > > common. It was not a pattern for us to follow.
> > > Terry
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you
>may
> >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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