Actually, we know the order is true despite what "falling away" may mean, right? Paul is laying out the order. The falling away happens, then the man of sin is revealed, then the Lord comes.
Now, if one takes "falling away" to mean a falling away of the faithful from the faith, then the time of the resurrection is unspecified in this verse.
But, I was writing in the context of the "falling away" meaning the resurrection itself (see the reference I gave in a previous post). In this context, it would indicate that the resurrection would happen, then the man of sin would be revealed, then the Lord would come.
The next question is, do you believe the man of sin is the beast spoken of in Revelation, and if so, when is he revealed? If he is revealed at the start of the 7 year tribulation, then this would point to a pre-tribulational resurrection. But, maybe he is not revealed AS the man of sin until 3.5 years into the tribulation...then a mid-tribulational resurrection would be in view.
But, I suspect you do not consider the "falling away" in 2 Thes 2:3 to be the resurrection. Am I right?
Again, this is not an issue I hang my salvation on. I am actually "pan-trib"...however it pans out!
I would like to hear (read) your post-tribulational resurrection beliefs if and when you have time. BTW, I am currently reading a book called "When will Jesus Come", by Dave Hunt. He takes a pre-tribulational resurrection view, and provides a lot of evidence for that position. Do you know of Dave Hunt? if so, what is your impression of him?
Perry
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Last Days Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 23:58:35 -0500
Perry wrote: > However, if the order of events is preserved in the > 2 Thes 2:3 (and we know it is since it's entire purpose > is to state the order of events), then the above cannot > be possible since at the time the "falling away" occurs, > the man of sin has not yet been revealed.
I think you are making a huge mistake with this statement. You assume your assumption of the order is true and then interpret the text from that. Based upon my study of Scripture, the resurrection (what you call the rapture) happens AFTER the man of sin is revealed.
Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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