Re: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud

[Blaine Borrowman]

----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] new dating for Turin Shroud   Blaine Borrowman wrote:   Well and good comments,  Terry, but not everyone accepts the "givens" of religious belief as we do.   Since the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ are in one way or other tied up with the shroud, it is a critical evidence of the reality of the Savior's mission on the earth--not merely that he lived, died and was buried--which is accepted by most.  The negative image on the shroud is believed by many scientists to have been caused by a burst of radiation, since it shows bone structure as well as surface image of the corpse.  For instance, the left thumb of the man enwrapped in the shroud was underneath the right hand, both being clasped together, yet the shroud image shows the bone structure of that hidden thumb.  It shows bone structure throughout the body as well.  Blaine      Terry wrote:  I appreciate your response Blaine, but I am still lost.  Would this prove that Jesus was radioactive?  If so, would that prove He was the Messiah? Terry   **Blaine writes:    I am sorry you are still lost Terry, some of us do seem to get lost easily.  (:>)  There is no doubt a lot of confusion in the world today, especially regarding what does or does not constitute proof.  As far as proof is concerned, however, I don't see that the visibility of bone structure in the shroud image proves anything.   For that matter, science and religion, especially religion, seldom prove anything.  Would you agree with this?  Judging from my observations, the best we usually get in science is support for a point of view, or theory--and with regards to religion, support for a belief.  Those scientists who tout the radiation point of view apparently feel the visibility of bone structure on the Shroud of Turin supports their  belief that the negative images came about as the body of Christ was being resurrected, the burst of radiation being part of the resurrection process.   No proof of this, of course,  just evidence that supports their belief system.  If we want to believe something bad enough, we can always find support for it, right?  Some, for example, want to believe grace without works is a part of the gospel of Jesus Christ, so they find a few isolated passages to support this feel-good belief.  Boys (of all ages) who want to have sex with their girlfriends, or view photos of naked women, find a few isolated passages in the Bible, or lack thereof,  to support their desire to do these things, and then feel good about doing such.   Same difference, I think, what do you think, brother Terry?