Elsman, I just got in and had my laugh for the day.  It would be interesting to get to know
the REAL ontological you :)  I know you are pulling our chains most of the time but at least you are
consistent.  Last night I listened to a couple of the messages on that Anxiety Website. They have the
radio programs on there from Detroit.  Why did Hubert start out OK and then get into the "two legged
devil" rant all the time?  Even so I think I would have liked him - if not his theology, or yours.  judyt
 
 
 
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GENTS,
        YOU GUYS NEED A SHRINK TO HELP YOU WITH THIS GIBBERISH & POPPYCOCK, AND I SAY THAT MOST RESPECTFULLY, FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE REAL ME.  HOWEVER, WHO IS "ME"?  WILL WE EVER KNOW IN A PURE ONTOLOGICAL SENSE?
          HELP!!!   I AM GETTING SUCKED INTO THE MAELSTROM BY THE NOMENCLATURE OF THIS EPISTEMOLOGICAL CHALLENGE!!
            ---ELSMANSTEIN

In a message dated 5/11/2004 3:58:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Lance wrote:
>Here's the full quote: "Certainly the Godelian
>theorems-which we may transpose from a logico-deductive
>system to a grammatico-syntactic or a logico-syntactic
>system-warn us that no syntactics contains its own semantics."
>Kudos to you David as a grammarian. If syntax and semantics
>were the same thing then you'd be home free. They aren't.

I don't consider syntax and semantics to be the same thing, so I'm not
sure why you would say that such is necessary for me to be home free.

You mentioned Godel, a mathematician who has stirred a lot of debate, so
I searched further about this word "syntactics."  It is a specialized
term not in my dictionary, but I did find a definition indicating that
it does not have the same meaning as syntax.  Syntactics is a SINGULAR
NOUN and should not be confused with the word SYNTACTIC, an adjective
relating to syntax.  Syntactics refers to the branch of semiotics that
deals with the formal properties of symbol systems.  My comments might
not apply because I assumed you meant syntax instead of syntactics, a
word that was unknown to me at the time I read your statement.
Therefore, please explain this statement this statement for us.  What
exactly does it mean?  If you believe the statement to be true,
certainly you can make the case for us.

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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