Bush was given an honorable discharge from the National Guard. He fulfilled his enlistment.
What is your problem Jonathan?  judyt
 
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:51:27 -0400 "Hughes Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
As a follow-up, the information contained in the memos is true.  Note how the Bush administration has not denied it.  The memos themselves are forged.  Can you see the difference?

Jonathan 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judith H Taylor
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dan Rather

CBS has apologized and Rather is still sticking to his guns, there is something wrong with this picture but not much point
in arguing about it since noone knows what Rather knew or how/when he knew it.  It's just sad that he chooses to hold to the
lie when his story has been exposed already.  As for the WMD issue. The jury is still out on that one   It's good not to be part
of other men's sin. 
 
judyt
 
 
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:46:38 -0400 "Hughes Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 
Jonathan in blue.
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dan Rather

In a message dated 9/22/2004 5:30:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Dan Rather, CBS News Anchor
1) given documents he thought were true

no evidence for this whatsoever
 Other than his own word.  You may dislike Rather (and I am probably in that crowd) but there is no reason to think that he is stupid.  To put out documents that he knew were false just to slander a president is highly unlike who Rather has shown himself to be.  Once again, he is not stupid.

2) failed to thoroughly investigate the facts

within 3 hours of the release of these "documents,"  they were fully exposed as fake  -- proving that almost no investigation was necessary.   All other news agencies (NBC, Time for example) tuned done the initial offering out of hand.  
 They were not "fully exposed as fake" within 3 hours.  Web logs (called blogs) called their authenticity into question within 3 hours.  The proof was still being worked on.  As we all know the investigation has to be into why the fact-checking was not done.  Rather does the interviews and reads copy.  Don't confuse him with being the person who did the initial investigation.

3) reported documents to the American people as true to make his case

the only news anchor to do so
 Aye but not the only news agency/paper.  I believe it was first done in the Boston Globe.  It spread on the internet like wildfire.  Every news agency talked about it.

4) when confronted with the facts, apologized and launched an investigation

two weeks later and after being under intense pressur to do so   ..  his initial response was one of defiance.
 His initial response was that he thought they were true.  Interestingly enough the Bush administration has not denied the actual charges.  The people who came forward to say that the documents were forged also came forward to say that the sentiment and the information behind the documents was true.  It matters not one whit that the documents were forged if the facts contained in them are true which certainly seems to be the case.  Contrast this with the Swift Boat crowd.  Their documents and their facts were both false. 

5) number of Americans dead: 0

Well, one out of six isn't bad (?)


6) should be fired as CBS News Anchor

Since I stopped watching Blather after his kiss up interview with Saddam, I don't really care.   Network news has lost nearly 70% of its audience since the early 1980's.  
 Except for Fox :) 

It can be argued that Larry Flint's filth has caused "0" deaths  -- but Flint's  standard of worth is not the war issue.  Understand that I am not arguing for the war in Iraq.   It is just that the implied standard of judgment should not be whether or not someone has died.
 The standard of judgment here is consequences.  Rather's consequences for using forged documents are trifling.  Bush's are enormous.  At least one apologized.

a brother
John



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