RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

[Jonathan Hughes]

Please replace all references to David Brook to David Brock.  Thank you.   JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands   Ahh Judge Judy J   Another Judyean tactic:  Never ever, ever admit one is wrong, especially when one is wrong.  Fight til the death! So Arafat’s pederasty went from being something that is just ‘reportedly’ true to ‘an open secret’?  Nice work Judy.  Please tell me which books and articles these are.  You make it sound like there is a lot of them.  I await your response.  You will find that there was one book, and that all the articles (mostly David Frum, and WND) all use the gossip mentioned in this book.  Now here is your penance.  Go and google up “Arafat is gay”.  See what type of articles you get Judy.  You will get the one that you already posted from www.365gay.com (do you visit there for all your gay community news?).  You will see lots and lots of pages of rumours and if you search real nicely you may find the book by a Romanian intelligence officer who claims he has tapes.  Of course these tapes have never been released.  Go to www.amazon.com and look up this book.  Whatever you think of Arafat this gay myth is based on the dubious testimony of a much derided ex commie torturer who defected to the US and was keen to invent any rubbish to please his new friends. O and make a few bucks with his book of course. the torturer's name was Pacepa: "this book is utterly unbelievable and unconvincing. ... This is quite laughable. ... In addition to being highly implausible the book is poorly written. ... It is a (most likely) highly fictionalized and sanitized memoirs " http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895267462/qid=1067604602/sr=8-1/r ef=sr_8_1/102-6507415-0260920?v=glance&n=507846 You may even come across a video where Arafat is shown kissing a man profusely in public.  Understanding Arab customs may help you here.  To sum up, while I (see below) have two people that confess that Drudge is gay you have a bunch of unqualified rumours.  How about going here: http://members.shaw.ca/libraryan/rainbowthreads/index.html.  Here is a list of people who they believe are confirmed as gay.  Arafat is not on the list.  Drudge is.  Hmmm. And for the record Judy, I made the statement that Matt Drudge WAS a homosexual based upon David Brook’s book “Blinded by the Right”.  I also backed it up with some website articles but my main proof was the story that David Brook tells of Drudge (Brock is gay).  I spelled this out very clearly for you.  And also for the record, David Cohen confirmed to Daily News columnist George Rush that he did, in fact, date Drudge.  So I have two people (which I believe is enough for your scriptural rule that all things must have at least two witnesses).  A quick google search and you will realize that Drudge knows a lot about gay culture, admits to visiting gay bars and listens to music by gay musicians.  So, am I making flimsy statements?  NO.  Your response was (and here I paraphrase – I will go back to the archive if you so wish), “Well even if it is true I don’t think we should be talking about another person’s sin.  If it is true it will be shouted from the rooftops.”   Now when it comes to someone you despise (Arafat), why wait for it to be shouted from the rooftops?  Post your hate away!  My point is that you are being hypocritical.  Will you see it?  No, but everyone else does.  Anyways, I hope this is the last post we need to illustrate this.   Issues and ideas are fine as long as they are linked to a person.  Persons are what life is all about.  Spending our time in issues and ideas apart from personhood gets us nowhere.    JBH   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands   jt: Jonathan once more pointing the finger with four of them pointing back at himself. You made the statement that Matt Drudge WAS homosexual based on some very flimsy suggestions by a website so scuzzy that I felt in need of a bath after I went there once.  OTOH I qualified my statement even though Arafat's pederasty is an open secret and has been documented in books and articles for years. Jonathan how is it that you never want to discuss issues and ideas?  Your focus seems to be always on the person?   On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 09:52:07 -0500 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Often on this forum I feel like I am pointing out the obvious.  Judy, Izzy posted a WorldNetDaily article dealing with ‘reported’ stories of Arafat being a homosexual.  You then brought this into a conversation with Slade.  You admit that it is something that is just ‘reported’, not necessarily truth.  A few weeks ago your gums began flapping when I posted information stating that Matt Drudge was ‘reportedly’ a homosexual.  You thought that such reports should not be made public since they were not verified.  The Straight Up Question:  Are you ever aware of your own hypocrisy?   JBH   We are supposed to have our senses exercised so that we are able to discern between good and evil. Yassir Arafat is reportedly a homosexual terrorist who steals from his own people keeping them impoverished and bound; he respresents the epitomy of evil.    REPORTEDLY???? Since you don't know, why did you bring it up?    jt: I didn't bring it up Slade, Arafat has been the topic of discussion on this list all week, where have you been?   --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.792 / Virus Database: 536 - Release Date: 11/9/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.792 / Virus Database: 536 - Release Date: 11/9/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.792 / Virus Database: 536 - Release Date: 11/9/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.792 / Virus Database: 536 - Release Date: 11/9/2004