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Jeff:I laugh every time I watch the 'dead parrot sketch' or the 'department of silly walks'.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On TOE -- Relational Theology

Very cute Lance! I like the Monty Python reference!!
Jeff
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From: Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 15:58
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On TOE -- Relational Theology

Jt:HIS cross Judy, thus the significance of the Incarnation. There I go being abstruse again.
 
Sorry, sensitive types but, it's the difference between who is on the cross in 'The Life of Brian' and, Who is on the Cross at the conclusion of the LIFE of Jesus. 
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:14:41 -0700 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
"Unfortunately my lunch break is over :)"
 
You're amazing, Jonathan. You do on lunch break what takes me a snow day to consider.
 
Judy asked, Why is it important?

For this reason we also ... do not cease to pray for you, and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; ... giving thanks to the Father who ... has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. -- (See Col 1.9-20)

 

jt: Thanks for your response Bill - My next question is. Why focus on the 'incarnation' when scripturally focus is on the cross? We are baptized into His death, and not on His birth.  Notice the scripture above "having made peace through the blood of His Cross" judyt

Hi Judy, I think we're thinking different things with the use of the word incarnation. When I use of the term "incarnation," it involves the entire ministry of Christ, including his priestly/mediatorial work at the right hand of the Father, and not just his birth. I agree with you, most emphatically that the nexus is the cross.

Judy, I typed the above and then noticed that Jonathan had more adequately addressed the question. I hope that between us we have at least begun to ease your concern.

Sincerely,

Bill

 

 

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