Izzy in red:
JD,
while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT .
I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and I’m sure
he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT. Izzy
DAVEH: Though I suspect I do have many friends
on TT, I failed to receive any invitations to Christmas dinner this year.....
:-) Don’t feel bad, DaveH, neither did I.
(In fact I had to make my own turkey, dressing, gravy, potatoes, etc…for
15 folks! J)
In years past however, there were times when the discussions
centered on whether or not I would be welcome in the homes of some TTers.
I suspect there were a few TTers who thought I might be hiding a tail and horns
under my hat and cloak. Maybe they still reside on TT....I don't
know. But it matters not, Izzy. Most TT folks are relatively kind
to me nowadays. Some probably still suspicion me to be a threat, and are
acting in accordance, I suppose....but that is their problem, not mine. Shall I pull out my tiny violin as you tug on our
heartstrings? So show up on my doorstep and I’ll bake you a cake. Then as
you are enjoying that I’ll tell you exactly why you need to get saved (as
I have done in the past, as you know!) J
FWIW....I've always tried to be up front with my
beliefs. When folks ask, I try to respond with a cogent answer, sometimes
inflicting a dose of humor with my replies. At least Terry and perhaps a
few others seemingly appreciate that. But I'm pretty sure nobody on TT
gives any credence to my beliefs or skewed view of various passages in the
Bible I've quoted over the years. I'm sure my LDS bias turns most folks
off....and, I understand that. But...I'm still curious as to how some of
you folks view the passages I quote....That's why I bring them up now and
then. I just wish more of you would not be so reluctant to share your
thoughts though. As you should know, I'm not out to stab anybody in the
back if you misspeak or get it wrong even by Protestant standards....I'm just
curious as to what you believe and why you believe it the way you do. DaveH, you were on TT ever since I joined up
around nine years ago for this very reason, and you STILL don’t know what
we believe??? (On the other hand, neither do we
apparently!) Nor do I expect any of you to agree with me, but I
do appreciate your respectful replies to my questions and posts. Even if
you don't consider this Mormon boy to be a Christian, I thank you for allowing
me to enjoy the fellowship of TT. No
problem, DaveH, as you are always pleasant (when you aren’t playing one
of us against another.) Izzy
In a message dated 1/10/2005 12:13:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Slade Henson wrote:
So, you're saying...yes, you believe in multiple
gods,
DAVEH: Yes........does not the Bible suggest likewise? Look
at PS 82:6......
I have said, ye are gods; and all of you are
children of the most High.
.......Now, most Protestants will claim that the term god was not used
correctly here---that it really means judges (vs 1). However, IF that
were accurate, what logic would prevail for Jesus to use vs 6 as a
defense........
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in
your law, I said, Ye are gods?
...........against those who sought to incriminate him as making himself as God
(Jn 10:33).
So, yes....I believe the Bible supports that there are multiple
Gods, but because of the propensity of the Israelites to forget the God who
brought them salvation, the emphasis was put on their worship of ONE GOD.
but you only worship only ONE God?
DAVEH: Yes....Our Heavenly Father.
Or LDS believe in multiple gods and YOU personally
only worship/believe in one?
DAVEH: I/we accept there are many, but I/we worship only one.
Do you think the Trinity doctrine is worshipping three Gods?
DAVEH: No....not necessarily. I think the T-Doctrine
obfuscates the nature of God so that those who accept the T-Doctrine really
don't understand what they do worship.
For instance.....I believe Jesus has a body of flesh and bones,
which the Bible proclaims emphatically. Yet I can't tell you how many
times I've found Protestants find it hard to accept that fact. I believe
it is because they've become steeped in the T-Doctrine suggestion that God is
everywhere, but nowhere and is only in spirit form.
When you think of Jesus, Kay, do you think of him as a living
being consisting of a spirit clothed with flesh and bone? Do you think
that characterization compliments the T-Doctrine, or is it in conflict with it?
Kay
Slade
Henson wrote:
All I did was read the definition. As Christian is defined, lots of
denominations would be included.
Are you saying that Dave believes in multiple gods?
DAVEH: Yes...... but I believe we are only to worship one
God. IMHO the Bible supports my belief, but a lot of folks have gotten
sidetracked by the T-Doctrine.
Kay
Woops...that was me, Dave,
not Slade. I forgot to sign it.
I would say LDS folks fall
under the Christian category.
Kay
Kay,
I find it amazing that you believe that a believer in multiple gods is a
Christian. How do you figure? izzy
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