RE: [TruthTalk] concept-reality Q

[Debbie Sawczak]

Yes, and the words we use are names for the concepts not the reality. But the same person designed both our minds and the rest of reality, and so systems of concepts are related to the reality in a nonrandom way that lets us live (with varying degrees of success). Hence there are degrees of shared concept, too, although no two thinkers even using the "same" symbolic system have identical concepts (nor identical experiences of reality). The more similar the concepts are, though, the more we are prone to assume they are the reality. Isolation of groups produces groupthink.   My questions arising have to do with learning: How does one know how great the variance is between one's concept and the reality, or which of two concepts is "closer", especially if it's an abstract reality? How does one change one's concepts in that case, if they're all one has by which to think?   Debbie  -----Original Message----- From: Lance Muir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:31 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What if Jesus is not God? We think reality through concepts. The two are always at variance with one another. IFF you agree with this formulation then, will you submit questions that arise from it? ----- Original Message ----- From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 20, 2005 05:45 Subject: [TruthTalk] What if Jesus is not God? This poses an interesting question. What do you think is the fate of those who believe Jesus was just a man and not G-d?   -- slade -----Original Message----- From: Judy Taylor Sent: Thursday, 20 January, 2005 02.53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? jt: So you just see Mormonism as a "different church?"  Has your mother-in-law renounced the works of darkness, repented of following false gods and left that system?  You are not doing DaveH any favors by the statement above.  His soul is more important than us being 'nice' we need to call things what they are.  If you can't see the problem then possibly you are deceived in this area also John and need to do your homework.  We have no authority to pronounce people "saved"  It has to be between them and the Lord. all we can do is point them to "The Way" and encourage them in it - We can stand in faith for ourselves but until Jesus declares (at the end) those who belong to him - we speak presumptuously.  jt