[TruthTalk] [Truth Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen

[Caroline Wong]

All love, life and goodness in this world comes from God. Jesus himself asked the rich young ruler why he called Him good when only God is good.   The elder in charge of the prayer ministry at our church came to a realization that our love is given to us by God and we love Him and others out of that resource. He told me that people need to be able to receive love in order to give it. It was such a revelation to him that he wrote it down and is taking the men's prayer group in that direction. And these men aren't soft on sin at all! There are many testimonies of deep confession and repentance at the meetings he lead, stories of men breaking before the Lord and changing forever. The pastors joke about needing to post a warning label on our cell group pamphlet.   This is the verse we put on the church website: We love because He first loved us. 1 John 4:19   Love,   Caroline     ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen Caroline Wong wrote:   Terry wrote: I am not certain what the creation had to do with it. The  delimma is: which comes first?  Righteousness or love?  Are you love God because you are righteous, or are you righteous because you love God?     IMHO 1) God loves us 2) He clothes us with Christ's righteousness 3) He seats us in Christ in the heavenly realms in communion with Him 4) Out of the overflow of His love in our inner being, we live our lives.   I don't have any love or righteousness. It is all His.   Love   Caroline Please explain number four. Thank you, Terry