I thought the following article was a very interesting read. I
wonder what others on TruthTalk think about the role of women in the marriage
relationship and the church. I suspect what is taught below by Debi
Pearl might not be well received by some of the more pc members here. I
could be wrong.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
MONDAY MANNA Issue 42: What Men Need From Women - Part
1
=====================================================================
MONDAY
MANNA: 5 minutes to help equip Jesus' soldiers for another week
in
the SPIRITUAL WAR
By Marc White, Walk Worthy, Central Florida,
USA
"(God) rained down manna upon them to eat, And gave them food from
heaven."
Psalm 78:24
Monday Manna, Copyright 2005, a Walk Worthy
ministry; permission granted to
repost in
full.
=====================================================================
Dear
ones,
We've spoken a bit before of how we men need to nourish (provide)
and
cherish (protect) women, especially our wives for those of us who
are
married. These spiritually masculine disciplines thrill, exhilarate,
and
calm the females around us! More on this at a later time.
But
recently I heard again from a dear brother who has been in a
continuing
disagreement with his wife over a key ministry issue in their
lives.
Occasionally there're breakthroughs, but it creeps back in. They
even have
had spiritual deliverance of demonic oppression.
This
problem surfaces when the husband sees the Lord's leading in this issue
and
wants to move in that Godly direction. His wife wants what she thinks
is
right. Even after many people and couples have spoken into their lives
and
told the wife she is wrong in both this issue and her attitude, she
persists
after 10 years.
The husband has repented of his sinful
anger years earlier when this issue
dragged on and on and even affected his
health. Currently, he's discouraged
(as is the wife) and seeking prayer
from his circle of believers. He feels
he's stuck, he laments. He has
studied the Word of God for his path in all
this, and has found that
contention is a contest, strife, war-like. It is
disrespectful. He feels
emotionally castrated, and longs for the days when
she admired
him.
Proverbs 19:13
A foolish son is destruction to his
father,
And the CONTENTIONS of a wife are a constant
dripping.
Proverbs 21:9
It is better to live in a corner of a
roof
Than in a house shared with a CONTENTIOUS woman.
Proverbs
21:19
It is better to live in a desert land
Than with a CONTENTIOUS and
vexing woman.
Proverbs 25:24
It is better to live in a corner of the
roof
Than in a house shared with a CONTENTIOUS woman.
Proverbs
27:15
A constant dripping on a day of steady rain
And a CONTENTIOUS
woman are alike;
So, what does a man need from a woman?
Respect.
Meaning to show and feel honor, esteem, high regard,
deference,
consideration.
It's the key to harmony from the women's
interaction with men, whether in
marriage, between mother and son,
etc:
Ephes. 5:33
Nevertheless, each individual among you also is to
love his own wife even as
himself, and the wife must see to it that she
RESPECTS her husband.
This Greek word for Respect is this case is
phobeo; it's derived from
phobos; i.e. to put to flight, to terrify,
frighten, and renders these
words: afraid(41), am afraid(2), fear(27),
feared(5), fearful(2),
fearing(6), fears(2), filled with awe(1),
frightened(6), have fear(1),
respect(1).
Yes, you say, but you don't
know my husband or father or whoever. You're
right. We don't. But we know
the cure. It's very plain. But SUPER-natural in
application. Paul
said the brethren of his day should honor Nero (1
Peter
2:17)!
Ladies, let me ask you: is there any trouble in your
relationships with men?
Is it ALL his fault? Or MOSTLY? Do you want it to
get a whole lot better?
Below is Part 1 of an article that will help. You
may disagree with her
observations and conclusions, and you may still
continue in your trouble.
Pray to Him for open hearts, try her advice, see
how Jesus parts your own
Red Sea:
The Jezebel Profile - Part 1, By
Debi Pearl of No Greater Joy Ministries
"Every day I read many letters
from women who are having trouble in their
marriage. I also receive letters
from women testifying of the victory they
have received and of healing that
has occurred. I have developed a lot of
insight through reading these
testimonies of successes and failures. My
husband and I have searched the
Scriptures to find answers for the many
domestic issues that are presented
to us.
"The causes of marital failure are many and varied. There is no
one cause or
single issue. The man is at fault just as much as the woman,
but it is
nearly always the woman who seeks answers. Men just go to work
and learn to
live with it-or flee from it. Women ask, "What can I do to
heal my
marriage?" I am a woman. Men don't usually ask me for
advice-which is as it
should be. So I speak to women, and for that I am
often accused of being
one-sided. Women ask, "Why do you always blame the
women; what about the
men?" So to the women I say, you cannot change 100%
of the marriage, but you
can change 50% of it, and that may improve your
marriage by 200%.
"Our readers are a unique group. They are spiritually
minded, church going,
Bible believing, mostly home schooling, and very
family centered in
perspective. This profile lends itself to several unique
sources of
irritation to the marriage. Your letters and testimonies have
enabled us to
identify one of the most common problem on the woman's
side. It is the
Jezebel spirit.
"When the name Jezebel comes to
mind, most of us see the painted face of a
seductively dressed woman gazing
into the eyes of a man who lacks good
sense. The Bible portrays Jezebel in
a different light.
"Revelation 2:20 says that Jezebel "calleth herself
a prophetess," and men
received her as a teacher. This was given as a
warning to the church. The
one whom you have received as a spirit filled
teacher comes to you in the
great tradition of Jezebel. We have observed
that many wives have stalled
their half of the marriage by assuming the
spiritual headship of the home.
They would teach their husbands. But
consider 1 Cor. 14:34-35, "Let your
women keep silence in the churches: for
it is not permitted unto them to
speak; but they are commanded to be under
obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let
them ask their husbands at home: for
it is a shame for women to speak in
the church."
"I went back to I Kings to see what the Bible had to say
about this woman
Jezebel. The first thing I noticed was that Jezebel was
more religious than
her husband. She was spiritually intense. The Bible
says in 1 Cor 11:3, "But
I would have you know, that the head of every man
is Christ; and the head of
the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is
God." As a woman, our place
is under our husband, especially in the
spiritual realm. Regardless of our
circumstances, when we take the
spiritual lead, we have stepped out from
under our head. We have tried to
rearrange God's designated place for us. We
are no longer in God's
will.
"The second thing I observed was that Ahab was
emotionally
volatile-unstable. Is your husband prone to retreat? Is he
bitter, angry, or
depressed? When a woman takes the lead, she is playing
the masculine role.
Unless her husband fights her for supremacy, he must
assume second place.
And men who are forced into spiritual subjection to
their wives tend to be
angry and retreat like Ahab.
"The third thing
I noticed was that she used his emotional stress to endear
herself to
him-strange way of lording over the husband. Jezebel manipulated
and
accused an innocent man, then had him murdered so that Ahab might have
the
vineyard he wanted. Ahab kept his face to the wall and let her do her
dark
deeds. Today, if a woman is willing to play her husband's role in
directing
the family, he will lose his natural drive to bear responsibility.
"In
the dominant role, a woman quickly becomes emotionally and
physically
exhausted. God made us the weaker vessels. If you are in this
exhausted
state, then chances are you're carrying a load not meant for you.
It is not
for you to press your husband to do his duty to be spiritual. You
are to
live joyfully in the context he provides.
"The fourth thing
that jumped out at me was that Ahab could easily be
manipulated by his wife
to suit her purposes. Jezebel used him to set up
images as aids to
worship under her own prophets and to kill God's
prophets. Often, a
man becomes involved in the Church, not because God has
called him or
because it is in his heart to do so, but because he is trying
to please his
wife and at least LOOK spiritual. When a husband steps into a
spiritual
role at his wife's beckoning, he becomes vulnerable to her
guidance in that
role. This is against nature, and often brings conflict in
the family and
in the church.
"Ahab chose not to notice when his wife worked behind
the scenes. Many men
turn their heads when they see their wives stepping
out of their God-given
role. These men would rather not have to deal
with the stone-cold anger
they would receive from their wives if they
offered any resistance. Have you
been there, done that?
"Jezebel
knew that she was not the rightful head, so she invoked her husband
's name
to give her word authority. Did you ever say, "Oh, my husband will
not let
me do that," when you knew in truth he really would not care? It is
a way
to maintain control and stop those who would question you. When a
woman
does this, she stops any ministry God has to her.
"Jezebel was deeply
concerned about spiritual matters and took steps to help
promote her
spiritual leaders. In the process, she provoked her husband to
destroy
those in spiritual authority she did not like. Have you ever
influenced
your husband to think evil of those in authority because you did
not like
something about them? When a woman comes to this place she might as
well
sign her name "Jezebel."
"God has a plan for women. He revealed his
will in many verses in clear,
concise commands. He gives a revealing
picture of what he abhors in a woman
by introducing us to Jezebel, then
reaffirming in the New Testament just
what it was about her character that
he found so despicable.
"He reveals his will in a positive note in the
stories of the women whom he
honored. The story of Ruth tells of a young
girl who had known tragedy,
extreme poverty, and hard menial work, yet she
maintained a positive,
thankful, and submissive attitude. God blessed Ruth
because her own personal
success and happiness were not the driving forces
in her life.
"Esther is the story of a girl who lost all of her family
and was taken by
force to become the wife of an older, divorced, heathen
man. She was put (by
her husband's decree) in danger of losing her own life
as well as the lives
of all her people. Yet, she overcame her circumstances
and her fear in order
to honor her husband. The Scripture teaches that when
her husband heard her
honest appeal, delivered with gracious dignity, she
won his heart, and he
turned to save her people. God used Esther because
God's will was more
important to her than her own fulfillment."
To
be continued. In Part 2. If you desire to finish the article now, go to:
www.nogreaterjoy.org and search by the article name. Debi's
new book is the
recommended resource below.
Saints, we're one day
closer to Home, and Him! Love Him
wholeheartedly!
****************************************************************************
*
Thanks
in His Word:
Ephes. 5:20-21
always giving THANKS FOR ALL THINGS in
the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to
God, even the Father; and be subject
to ONE ANOTHER in the FEAR of
Christ.
****************************************************************************
*
Sober
Thoughts for Serious Soldiers of the Cross - We're in a War,
Brethren:
(We know there's many verses in the Holy Scripture for your
man, or men. But
this subject is about the woman at this time. So, look
first for any beams
in our own eye.)
Genesis 3:16
To the woman He
said,
"I will greatly multiply
Your pain in childbirth,
In pain you
will bring forth children;
Yet your desire will be for your husband,
And
he will rule over you."
Ephes. 5:22-24
Wives, be subject to your own
husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is
the head of the wife, as
Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself
being the Savior of the
body. But as the church is subject to Christ, so
also the wives ought to be
to their husbands in everything.
1 Peter 2:18-21
Servants, be
submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to those
who are good
and gentle, but also to those who are unreasonable. For this
finds favor,
if for the sake of conscience toward God a person bears up
under sorrows
when suffering unjustly. For what credit is there if, when you
sin and are
harshly treated, you endure it with patience? But if when you do
what is
right and suffer for it you patiently endure it, this finds favor
with
God.
For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also
suffered for
you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His
steps,
1 Peter 3:1-2
In the same way, you wives, be submissive to
your own husbands so that even
if any of them are disobedient to the word,
they may be won without a word
by the behavior of their wives, 2as they
observe your chaste and respectful
behavior. (note: many commentators
believe this is only pertains to unsaved
husbands - even so, contention is
still a grievous sin and
disrespectful.)
****************************************************************************
*
Recommended
Resource:
"Created to Be His Help Meet," by Debi Pearl of No Greater
Joy Ministries:
she says "discover how God can make your marriage
glorious;" brand new, and
rare reviews from women I admire and their men;
I'm reading it
now.
****************************************************************************
*
The
writers and speakers we quote may preach certain doctrines in
their
ministries and/or live lifestyles that we disagree with mildly
or
wholeheartedly. However, something of eternal value from them has
been
delivered to us by the Holy Spirit. And in that leading, we pass it on
to
you for your edification!
Feel free to write and proclaim your
leadings in the Spirit. May our Father
richly bless you with His grace,
through Jesus Christ our Lord, in order to
walk worthy of His
name.
====================================================================
Both
our ministry, as well as Marc and Sandy White appreciate your
continued
support with bold prayer (first and foremost), exhortation and
finances.
Walk Worthy is a 501 (c) 3 non-profit ministry equipping the
saints for the
work of service (Eph. 4.12), so that they will walk in a
manner worthy of
the Lord (Eph. 4.1, Col. 1.10, 1 Thes. 2.12). Our address
is 44344 Cross
Country Blvd., Altoona FL, 32702, USA. If you'd like to be
added to our
prayer and praise update as God moves in His kingdom, please
write us.
Please note: both Marc and Sandy are now more available to
come be with your
group for praise & prayer, fasting, teaching, being
in one accord (conflict
resolution), and preaching the Gospel. Let us know
of your possible leadings
and preferred dates, so we make seek the
Lord.
=====================================================================
If
you've received this in error, please let us know and we'll remove
your
name immediately. Nobody likes wasted resources.
To Subscribe:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]=====================================================================
--
To
unsubscribe, send ANY message to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
