Yes.
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Present tense/past tense? Older
Testament?
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Caroline does not seem to realize that her
statement about Judiasm not having a concept of hell is false. I have
tried to point out to her that Jews have a wide spectrum of beliefs about the afterlife.
Some even believe in reincarnation. That doesn’t mean this is an
orthodox belief. Izzy
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This image of hell may be true for you
but I don't get hell images from any of those places - However, I do
believe what Jesus had to say about it ie: weeping and gnashing of teeth
and I don't believe purgatory to be a scriptural concept. How is it that
you, as a professing believer, can be so dismissive about this and
why would you believe Judaism to have no concept of hell at all?
Can you tell me what reason they would have to believe that the generation
who perished in the wilderness went to Paradise - or that the men who died
fornicating with the Moabite women went to Paradise? Why did God praise
Phineas for his zeal in spearing that couple and why are these things written
as an example to us?
An allegory uses symbolism to
express truth. Jesus does this in his parable of the Rich Man and
Lazarus. That man wanted to go and warn his brothers not to come to that
place and he felt like he was burning up. I really don't believe
we worship the same God Caroline because He doesn't change and if not for
Moses' intercession He would have killed all of Israel over the golden
calf incident. Your allegory does not express this kind of truth, it puts
me more in mind of the children of Israel eating and drinking and rising up to
play .... There is a disconnect somewhere. Grace and Peace,
jt
We get most of our hell images from artists and poets and
cinematographers who came along way after Jesus' time. When Jesus was preaching,
he said Gehenna and that there would be weeping and gnashing of teeth. The real
question is whether God and the Jewish people had in mind a place of eternal
damnation and eternal conscious torture. There is a reason why God spent so
much time and effort to carve out a nation of chosen people. Is it true that Judaism is the only major world religion without the
concept of hell? Is this the culture/religion/people, the context,
where God's Good News come from?
But to answer your question, the answer is no.
Consider it an allegory :-)
Is that what your blog piece on hell is - satire?
We could divide everyone into The Reverend and The
Reverent and start another conversation here!
Here's a quote from the FAQ of The Brick Testament
re. whether The Reverend Brendan Powell Smith is ordained.
Most
ministers, priests, or other religious clerics would not actually use "The
Reverend" before their own names,
for to do so would be presumptuous and rather vain. The Rev. Brendan Powell
Smith is not an ordained member of any earthly church, and is widely regarded
as being both highly presumptuous and extremely vain.
The
man knows satire! It's an interesting take on the bible. I like the fact he
puts warning labels on his scenes. One almost forget the amount of nudity,
sexual content, violence and cursing there is.
Love,
Caroline
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Since reverend is a self imposed title, the only reasons to adopt such a
title would be pride or vanity. There are millions of examples, including
the reverend Jesse and the reverend Al. It is a bogus title that anyone
can use.
Reverend Terry
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