Part II in a series of II. This
being "part II," Kevin, means there was a post written prior to
this one -- we call it "Part I."
What David does in this response is clear; he manifests his lack
of concern for either myself or the actual discussion. This
comment "This is the crux of our difference then: doubt and unbelief
concerning the reality of the kingdom of God" is not an honest attempt at
dialogue for it was not written with me in
mind. Rather, it was written with David's audience in
mind. Smithson must be stopped -- his gospel
of "humanism" (apparently words with more than four letters have definitions
that often escape David's comprehension). He knows, full
well, that I do not agree with his statement (above.) Only
an idiot would think this statement would carry merit with me
-- and we all know that David is no idiot. So what is
left. David protecting his church kind of like the Apostle
Peter or the Apostle Paul -- we have the
Apostle Miller. Correct me if I am wrong -
seriously.
The notion that David walks in the apostles doctrine to a degree
that I do not is both untrue and arrogant. His need for
repentance is clear. The "Great commission" was given to His
apostles - the 12. Ditto for John 20:22-23 -- we know
this to be the case because the text is specific as to whom it is
He is talking to (syntax, David -- like it?). Anyway -
I share
the gospel message because
of what I have learned in the letter to the Romans. Chapter
one - the gospel is God 's power in saving man and, again in
chapter ten .... how shall the hear without an
evangel. More than that -- we are all
given to the ministry of reconciliation. The "Great
Commission" per se has little to do with you and I.
Acts 2:38ff tells us the promised spirit is for
all. The indwelling of the spirit is evidenced by any number of
gifted manifestations from love, joy,
peace, kindness, gentleness to prophecy, the speaking in tongues and even
hospitality.
JD
Pastor of the New Perichoretic Church of the First
Born
California Branch
Bs, Ma and , well ..... BS
again
Please note: this new Christian Denom will have no
congregations in the area of Compton unless and until hell freezes over.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Miller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Mon, 23
May 2005 11:27:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells-
Salvation
David Miller wrote:
>> John 20:22-23
>> (22) And when he had said this, he breathed on them,
>> and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
>> (23) Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto
>> them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
John wrote:
> You are not included in this; neither am I.
> I see the apostles as having a very different relationship
> with the Christ than anyone else.
This is the crux of our difference then: doubt and unbelief concerning the
reality of the kingdom of God. I abide in the apostles' doctrine and
believe that all that they were instructed in by Jesus the Christ applies to
everyone who believes in Jesus Christ. Jesus told the apostles:
Matthew 28:19-20
(19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
(20) Teaching them to observe ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU:
and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Paul said:
Philippians 3:17
(17) Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as
ye have us for an ensample.
Concerning the gift of the Holy Ghost that Jesus connected with the
retaining or remitting of sins in John 20:22-23, Peter said:
Acts 2:38-39
(38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in
the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the
gift of the Holy Ghost.
(39) For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and TO ALL THAT ARE
AFAR OFF, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Do you speak in tongues, John? Just how much of the Bible are you not
included in?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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