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What would you like? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
May I ask you to enlarge on this brief
description? I'd write this in Dutch but, I don't have to thanks to
you.
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USAF, I am classified as a Vietnam Era Vet Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
In which branch did you serve?
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Sent: May 25, 2005 15:34
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If it was not for the US Lance would be speaking the Dutch right
now!
Are
you enjoying your politically irrelevant rants Lance? First you say
we should forgive all debts against the USA, then you make
remarks that we are going to go bankrupt because of the debts,
etc. The Bible says lend and do not ask in return. That's
basically what we do. We don't worry about. I'm sorry you lose
sleep over it. Izzy
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On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:05
AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re:
[Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin
I understand that
monies owed the US total 3 trillion. The 'debt' owed the US by
Europe, Canada and, many other parts of the globe for it's aid in
both dollars and lives is incalculable. This issue though
connected, needs to be evaluated separately from the current
state of affairs in your country.
Jesus' Gospel of the
inbreaking of the reign of God excludes nothing. The Gospel of
the kingdom (Lk 16) suggests that cultural and,
political awareness are imperative. The privatization of the
gospel (personal salvation to the exclusion of all else) is a
shortcoming.
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"Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
Sent: May 24, 2005
16:38 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is
sin
> > > 'Lance....isn't 'that'(?) a
red > > herring?' > > LM responds: How so, >
> Christine? > > A red herring is an argument that
distracts the > audience from the issue in question by
introducing > some irrelevancy. Your speculation that my
father is > not culturally connected is irrelevant to the
topic. > Judy picked up on your subject-change, and I
agreed > with her: you seemed to be dodging the
question. > > > CM asserts that I equate cultural
awareness with > > cultural brainwashing. LM > >
asks:Using the context of my post kindly demonstrate > >
this assertion. > > Well, this is what Judy said (and
what I encouraged > you to answer): > > > Have
you also tallied up third world debt? > > > > Money
owed the US by other nations, and the cost > > of Canada's
irresponsibility the times they opted > > out and reaped
the benefits anyway? Someone always > > pays the price...
It is hopelessly naive to think > > that if noone does
anything - things will right > > themselves. Would Europe
be Western today if > Charles > Martel had not beaten back
the Islamic hoard > when they > got to Spain?
jt > > And your response was: > > > The
vortex of the whirlpool awaits. Why not > > ask 'the
prophet' if he sees connections where you > > and Iz do
not? He just might surprize you. If he > > did, by the by
then, he'd really surprize me! I > > believe him to be
largely culturally disconnected. I > > > trust that
Christine briefs him when she's home. > > You did not
answer Judy's post. You brought up > something irrelevant, and
ignored the merits of her > argument. My father's cultural
awareness has nothing > to do with Judy's
point. > > Judy's post is still
unanswered. > > > Blessings, > >
Christine > > > --- Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > CM asks of
me:'Lance....isn't 'that'(?) a red > > herring?' LM
responds: How so, > > Christine? > > > >
CM asserts that I equate cultural awareness with > >
cultural brainwashing. LM > > asks:Using the context of my
post kindly demonstrate > > this assertion. > >
Further, CM asserts that I equate knowledge and > > belief.
I do not. I did > > however, suggest a viewing of The
Corporation > > together. When you've done so > >
we might then have a discussion. > > > > CM
suggests that Jt refers to something about paying > > the
price for something > > or other. Kindly explain along with
the logical > > fallacy I fell prey to. >
> > > Well done young lady. You have the fancy footwork
of > > your father. You may > > have a career in
the ring. > > > > > > ----- Original
Message ----- > > From: "Christine Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To:
> > Sent: May 24, 2005
14:35 > > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is
sin > > > > > > > JT wrote: >
> > > Lance I find it curious that no matter what
the > > > > subject you are ALWAYS able to revert
the > > discussion > > > > back to >
> > > something critical of David Miller. > >
> > > > Judy asserts an interesting point there,
Lance. > > Isn't > > > that called a red
herring? > > > > > > Also, you seem to
equate cultural awareness with > > > cultural
brainwashing. I am not persuaded by the > > elite >
> > media, nor the liberalism of our foreign > >
neighbors. > > > You imply that if only my father or
myself KNEW > > the > > > popular,
anti-American sentiments of today, we > > would >
> > then have no choice but to agree. > >
> > > > Now, why don't you answer Judy's response
about > > > someone always paying the price? Her point
was > > > excellent and I have a feeling that is why
you > > > reverted to a logical fallacy. > >
> > > > > > > Blessings, > >
> > > > Christine > > > > > >
PS- My father is not culturally unaware. He is my > >
best > > > friend. You speak of him as if he were
barely > > human, > > > and you seem to scorn
the Lord's annointing on > > him. > > > >
> > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >
> > > > > Why? By osmosis she just might, via her
peers, > > > > assimilate some cultural
awareness. > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Judy Taylor > > > > To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > > > Cc:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > > > Sent: May 24,
2005 07:02 > > > > Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What
is sin > > > > > > > > > >
> > Lance I find it curious that no matter what > >
the > > > > subject you are ALWAYS able to revert
the > > discussion > > > > back to >
> > > something critical of David Miller. So you >
> don't > > > > believe he has a spiritual
gifting? This > > reflects > > > > more upon
where > > > > you are than whether or not he is used
by God > > in > > > > this dimension. Also
you are doubletalking. > > You > > > > just
got > > > > through calling Christine a carbon copy
of her > > dad > > > > - so why would she
need to be briefing him IYO? > > jt > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 24 May 2005 06:51:05 -0400
"Lance > > Muir" > > > >
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: > > > > The vortex of
the whirlpool awaits. Why not > > ask > > >
> 'the prophet' if he sees connections where you > >
and > > > > Iz do not? He just might surprize you. If
he > > did, by > > > > the by then, he'd
really surprize me! I believe > > him > > >
> to be largely culturally disconnected. I trust > >
that > > > > Christine briefs him when she's
home. > > > > From: Judy Taylor > > >
> > > > > Have you also tallied up third world
debt? > > > > Money owed the US by other nations, and
the cost > > of > > > > Canada's
irresponsibility the times they opted > > out > >
> > and reaped the benefits anyway? Someone always >
> pays > > > > the price... It is hopelessly naive
to think > > that if > > > > noone does
anything - things will right > > themselves. > >
> > Would Europe be Western today if Charles Martel >
> had > > > > not beaten back the Islamic hoard
when they got > > to > > > > Spain?
jt > > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 May 2005
04:35:15 -0400 "Lance > > > > Muir"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: > > > > Mr. Rogers
says (from the neighborhood > > in > > > >
the sky) 'hey kids, can we say seven trillion, > >
nine > > > > hundred and thirty-seven billion?'
Bankruptcy > > > > awaits. > > > >
From: Kevin Deegan > > > > First you must have
one..... > > > > > > > > Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >
Why would we be? We are not invading > > > >
countries to build an empire. > > > > From:
ShieldsFamily > > > > I'm sure you and Canada are
not > > being > > > > judged for anything at
all. How lovely for you. > > > > Izzy > >
> > > > > > > > > >
From: > > > >
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >
Behalf > > > > Of Lance Muir > > > >
You, collectively, are being > > judged > > >
> now for your consumerist, religious, non-kingdom > >
> > building (see Dallas Willard on this), dualist, >
> > > gnostic approach to what should be an
embodied > > > > gospel. God may well be using 'them'
to judge > > you. > > > > > > >
> From: Judy Taylor > > > > > > > >
Would you rather have mid east > > cloak > > >
> and dagger along with muslim violence and > >
insanity. > > > > Also how can you be > >
> > > > > > so sure that God is not
involved > > > > with what is happening in the middle
east. How > > are > > > > you so sure it is
not the time > > > > > > > > of Iraq's
visitation? Through > > > > history God has always
used one nation to judge > > > > another. Yes, the US
will be > > > > > > > > judged also
but - IN GOD'S TIME > > - > > > > Not
Lance's. jt > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 23 May 2005
09:18:21 > > -0400 > > > > "Lance Muir"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: > > > > > >
> > 'If' is the operative wordy, > > Izzy. >
> > > Given GWB's track record, it isn't looking >
> hopeful. > > > === message truncated
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