Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:35:04 -0700

 
 
  My Bible of choice is the NASV and the transltors of that publication have the verse reading " Every one who practices sin also practices lawlessness and sin is lawlessness."
 
  But more than this, I Jo 5:17 tells us that "all unrighteousness is sin."  
 
I Jo 1:8 gives us the truth that "if we say that we have (that we are having) no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in su..   Here, sin is more than an event.    
 
Several choices on the definition of sin within this book, alone !!
 
And what do I mean by saying what I said  -  that sin is not against the law?  No !! But I am saying that if our concept of sin does not go beyond this definition, we really cannot help those who need help.  What was sin in Abraham's day  --   before the law?   Before the existence of the Law?   Well, it certainly was something against the will of the creator   --   but there has to be an element of "sin" that is not law related   ----------------  (again) because there was a time when there is no law.   I personally do not believe that John in his first letter is speaking of events at all  --   I believe that he is speaking against the practice of sin, not event sin.      That is why, when he does name the commands he has in mind, he speaks of some _expression_ of love  (the love of God or the love of the brethren.)  Love is a life style&nb sp; -  it is something that you practice.  
 
JD
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]innglory.org
Sent: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:00:09 -0500
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

 
 
  sin is sin  --  but what IS sin?   As long as we have this idea that it is a violation of the law,  we will never be able to really help the people we are called to help.  
 
How do you do it? Once again, JD, you are in direct conflict with God’s Word:
 
1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
 
Management is a RECOVERY tool   --   not a teaching that encourages sin.  Sin Management teaches the addict to postpone her addictive behavior for a specified time   --   and this time is increased.  Fat people   (and I suspect there are more fat people on this forum than one would suppose) victimize themselves with the addiction of gluttony.   Sin Management teaches them that this is destructive behavior (ala "sin")  and encourages them to modify or postpone their eating .   Meanwhile, we emphasize the good and healthy aspects of their lives with God.  
 
“Management” of sin is still sin.  Having longer and longer periods of time between incidents of heroine still leaves you an addict.  Longer periods between incidents of adultery still leaves you with an adulterer.  Gluttons are still gluttons between banana splits. Liars are still liars between lies.  No one has “healthy aspects of their lives with God,” when they are “managing sin”.  A heroine addict needs to be institutionalized until he is clean, and then he needs to be in constant follow up counseling until he can stay clean on his own for good.  Only Christ can set us free from besetting sins—not sin management.  Your theology has no power to deliver from sin; only to “manage” it.   Izzy
< /DIV>

Reply via email to