RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

[ShieldsFamily]

DaveH, regarding your previous question, please take note of this technique of the Bible quote haters:  Instead of specifically quoting a particular statement to explain their views they throw an entire chapter at you and say, "It's in there if you just can see it--find it for yourself!"  Thus they think they are justified for using the Bible, but have blurred the issues by not being specific (because it really isn't "in there"!).  Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:27 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH The Bible does NOT speak for itself. On this (see my formula once again) we wholeheartedly agree. Why is it that even among the 'biblicists' who are mature there exists such minimal agreement? This ain't tennis or ping pong folks, this is the God of the Cosmos! Throwing out bible verses which simply elucidate YOUR view (not HIS) leaves people confused. That's why I referenced 2 Tim 3 (KJV whole chapter). ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 06, 2005 05:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Because men love darkness so much that they will not come to the light so that their deeds may be made manifest.   On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:49:00 -0700 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The Bible speaks for itself. DAVEH:    Are you sure about that, Izzy???  If so, why are there so many TTers wanting to speak in its behalf?   Hmmmmmm.......If the The Bible speaks for itself, then why do Street Preachers feel the need to proclaim it from the street? ShieldsFamily wrote: The Bible speaks for itself.  According to JSmith the Bible is not enough.  Who will you serve, the God of the Bible or the God of the Book of Mormon? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 7:12 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH DAVEH:   The problem as I see it, who is the arbiter of truth on TT, Izzy.  Is there anybody here you would say expounds nothing but truth? ShieldsFamily wrote: Only to condemn those who heard the truth but did not heed it. Iz DAVEH:    Do you suppose enduring to the end of TT would qualify!       ;-) ShieldsFamily wrote: No.  You must endure to the end “in Christ”.  Enduring to the end in JSmith doesn’t cut it.  Sorry. Iz   DAVEH:  I appreciate your concern for my eternal welfare, Izzy.  Would it be OK with you if I first endure to the end before getting saved, as the Savior suggested? ShieldsFamily wrote: I vote for (4) Get saved and talk about the REAL Jesus! J Izzy -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.