RE: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

[Kevin Deegan]

The point is to replace the Book with the Scholar

The point is to replace your church with his church.

First the book must be moved out of the way to make room, for the new authority.

Scholar says "The book has errors I have answers."

"The book can not be trusted, fear not I am here to help."

"the book is hard to understand I just so happen to be skooled in the art of Biblical hUmanuetics!"

ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

JD, you need to find a decent fellowship.  Your view of how the church behaves is foreign to me, except in the institutional denominations.  The church we attend now is the Best and Safest place to ask questions!  Questions are encouraged!  Just one difference between our church and you: at our church you can find ANSWERS! Did you ever ask yourself, “What is the point of asking questions if there are NO answers???”  iZZY

 

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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

 

 

 

 

When we decide upon a "truth,"  finalize that in our mind and even institutionalize the concept, we close the door to further examination.   With that door closed,  we are shut off from amending our point of view.  We stop growing and declare to all who will listen,  "I have arrived by the grace of God, of course."   On the occasion that we institutionalize the matter,  we close the door for re-examination to all others  --  a kind of excathedra statement.   The evangelical church has done this with her doctrine of "inspiration."   It has so formalized the teaching as to make it even dangerous to openingly disuss other possiblities to "verbal and plenary."   A disciple, new to the faith of the Evangelicals,  must quickly learn what can be questioned and what cannot if he/she is to remain within the fellowship.    Perhaps this is true in the high church as well  --  I do not know.  

 

JD

 

 

 

 

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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:33:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

JD Paul is surely NOT against knowing but knowing that is final

 

So you say.

Then I can never really know if what you are saying even now is true.

 

Why are you always looking to talk people out of knowing the truth?

Do you want them to end up like you, questioning everything?

Or so you can then become the one (the authority) to point them in to the way right behind you?

Prov 22 That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee

 

Maybe that is why you struggle with addictions.

JN 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It has occurred to me that if we speak and write with the view in mind that we at the beginning of another day of learning,  our hearts and minds will be more open to what God has instore.  Perhaps our doctrinal statements should not be "as if written n stone.'   But reflective of the growth that will begin again with the start of a new day. 

 

We would do less fighting and more growing. 

 

That is what I Cor 8:1-3 is saying,   ----   is it not?  Paul is surely NOT against knowing but knowing that is final, a closed systems of knowledge.  

 

Jd

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