Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The meaning of respect

[Kevin Deegan]

Yes why can't you be fair Christine?

Everygroup must be dealt with equally. Give the Devil his due!

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Christine says:'an individual (I assume that she is describing her own
stance herein) should not give equal attention and attention to all
religions' Well then, Christine, don't! Behave as you choose to on a
one-to-one basis or, on a one-to-many. Should you ever run for public
office, I trust that you will both state and explicate your views on such as
this.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: June 08, 2005 16:41
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The meaning of respect


> Lance wrote:
> > Would you 'respect' your parents if they were
> > representated by one of those
> > groups named below?
>
> Your question redefines the argument. You brought up a
> parent-child relationship when I was talking about a
> person-person relationship. Another way to redefine
> the argument is to discuss government. The government
> should give equal attention and esteem to all
> religions. Should the U.S. Government turn cartwheels
> when handling the Koran, because the Koran tells them
> to? I would say not. They are actually practicing
> Islam when they put on the gloves and use only their
> right hand to handle the Koran. This is a current
> event that I beleive illustrates why unequal respect
> is the wrong response to manipulation by violence or
> by whining.
>
> Now, I would say that an individual should NOT give
> equal attention and esteem to all religions. It would
> be disasterous to their spiritual health. I refuse to
> "respect" false practices and beleifs.
>
> And to answer your question, I definately would
> respect my parents if they practiced a false religion.
> I beleive there is a way to honor your father and
> mother without compromising the Truth. In that
> situation, one could be a powerful, humble witness for
> Jesus. The Lord keeps His own. I have several friends
> that converted to Christianity under households of a
> different faith, and the Lord made it possible to both
> follow Him and submit to their parents.
>
> But I suspect you still disagree. What's your point,
> Lance? Do you think I should respect Islam or
> Paganism? If this is true, how are you defining
> "respect?"
>
> Blessings!
>
>
> --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > Would you 'respect' your parents if they were
> > representated by one of those
> > groups named below?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:
> > Sent: June 08, 2005 12:35
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
> >
> >
> > > Kevin wrote:
> > > > A fig leaf will
> > > > never cover your SIN!
> > > > http://www.fairlds.org/apol/antis/200302.html
> > >
> > > Interesting how Bob links Mormonism to Islam,
> > Judaism,
> > > and Native American religion.
> > >
> > > Bob wrote:
> > > [These other religous followers wear] Bits of
> > cloth or
> > > string that are physical reminders of God and his
> > bond
> > > with man. Sacred things, really. Prayer shawls or
> > > beads, head coverings or aprons, medicine bags.
> > Things
> > > that are special to people, honorable and good
> > things.
> > >
> > > He goes on to say that these things should be
> > > respected. Now, I have a question. Do I have to
> > > respect Islam or Native American paganism? And
> > what
> > > does it mean to "respect" another religion I know
> > to
> > > be false?
> > >
> > > I do beleive in loving those who do not know or
> > even
> > > hate my God, but respect their false religion? Is
> > it
> > > disrespectful to tell a homosexual that their
> > actions
> > > are destructive to their immortal soul? Of course
> > not.
> > > I don't and shouldn't respect the homosexual's
> > actions
> > > or beleifs. Those whining about respect want to
> > > produce wimpy, mousey Christians who are too
> > > "respectful" to speak the truth.
> > >
> > > Blessings!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why frame it as an undewrwear debate?
> > > > We hold the fig leaf aprons also. in the Temple
> > > > Satan tells the LDS it is "a token of his
> > > > priesthoods" and they put them on. A fig leaf
> > will
> > > > never cover your SIN!
> > > > http://www.fairlds.org/apol/antis/200302.html
> > > > I doubt that Bob was an eyewitness, but hey
> > there is
> > > > always poetic license to lie right?
> > > >
> > > > BOB lies or repeats a lie "One man, dressed in
> > his
> > > > church clothes, walked past in the crowd, saw
> > the
> > > > insults and desecrations, and grabbed the piece
> > of
> > > > clothing. To protect it. He was charged with
> > robbery
> > > > and taken to jail."
> > > >
> > > > I was an eyewitness Mr Basilio assualted from
> > behind
> > > > with a choke hold a guy half his size, while he
> > was
> > > > praying not "waving", to protect the sacred
> > undies?
> > > > If it is sacred surely LDS must assualt to
> > protect
> > > > it. MY Pastor does not assault people! What's
> > with
> > > > this HIGH PRIEST?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=51767&nid=39&template=print
> > > >
> > > > Jose Basilio Charged with Robbery "This person
> > was
> > > > talking against the Church, saying bad things
> > > > against the Prophet. He was showing a garment.
> > It
> > > > was a woman's garment. The ones we wear as
> > members
> > > > of the LDS Church. I'm a High Priest. I was
> > angry. I
> > > > tried to take it from him....He said I tried to
> > hit
> > > > him. But I did not hit him. I know martial arts
> > and
> > > > if I would have wanted to hurt him, I could have
> > > > broken his arm or leg. He was just a youth and I
> > am
> > > > an adult. I had no intention to hurt him."
> > > >
> > > > "DWAYNE BAIRD/SALT LAKE CITY POLICE: IN DOING SO
> > IT
> > > > TOOK THE MAN TO THE GROUND, THE VICTIM AND IT
> > > > DRAGGED HIM A COUPLE OF FEET AS THIS MAN RAN
> > AWAY
> > > > WITH HIS PROPERTY."
> > > >
> > > > Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, you weren't waving it around? You were
> > just
> > > > walking around the streets holding someone's
> > > > underwear in your hands?
> > > >
> > > > Jd
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ========================================================================
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are you saying that somewhere in Salt Lake City
> > > > there is a Mormon with no skivvies?
> > > >
> > > > That is common down here where it is still
> > ninety
> > > > degrees at bed time, but SLC is a little cool
> > for
> > > > that. Might freeze your equipment.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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