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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:37:27 -0400
Subject: [TruthTalk] Being freed from sin
John wrote: > If He accepts faith in the place of our personal > righteousness ----- where do you think this > exchange takes place if not in HIS MIND ? How about within us? After all, he said earlier in the letter:
How about within us ???????? Romans 4:6 pronounces a " ....blessing upon the man to whomGod considers righteousness apart form obedience (works [of law]. In light of this verse, I believe your use of Romans 2:14-15 is inappropriate. This is probably why Paul does not use
2:14-15 as an argument for his point in Romans 4. Romans 2:14-15 (14) For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: (15) Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
The above (Romans 2) is not how we are saved !! In fact, only the POSSIBILITY of salvation is presented, based upon their good works. Ww know that reward to those who
obey is a reward of obligation (Romans 4:4)
Compare that with Jeremiah's prophecy of the New Covenant:Jeremiah 31:33-34 (33) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (34) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. So the New Covenant includes an exchange of faith for personal righteousness within us and not just in the mind of God. This is why he continues saying in his Roman letter: Romans 6:1-2 (1) What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? (2) God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
You have stated in the past that Christ died for past sins. What is God's plan of salvation
as you see it? Can you give a succinct review so that I do not misunderstand your faithon this point? Are you lost before you accept Christ? When do I benefit from event of the
cross? If I sin after receiving the sacrifice, am I lost? God does His part and then, it is up to me? You do not need to answer these questions, per se. I just want to put my question (what
is the plan of salvation as you see it) in a thoughtful context. How we view the following < /PRE>scriptures has to do with how we view the "plan." At least this is true of me.Romans 6:6-7 (6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. (7) For he that is dead is freed from sin. Romans 6:14 (14) For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Romans 6:18 (18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. Romans 6:22-23 (22) But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. (23) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 8:3-5 (3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: (4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (5) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
