RE: [TruthTalk] questions for Kevin . . (was playing chess . . . etc).

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Ps 41:9       9Even my close friend in whom I trusted,          Who ate my bread,          Has lifted up his heel against me.     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:30 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] questions for Kevin . . (was playing chess . . . etc).   DAVEH:  ???........is vs 12 a reference to Scripture that had been lost? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainer:  Guess Kevin's busy today--either that or he's not  condescending to speak to this lowly Mormon-- LOL.   But,  interesting scripture, Izzy. You chose the very passage I was wondering about, but couldn't find.  It seems to be saying Judas was pre-determined to be "the son of perdition."     Do you believe in pre-determinism?   This seems to be similar to the idea that only pre-selected individuals will go to heaven, and all others need not even apply, does it not?     In a message dated 7/20/2005 9:28:59 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John 17:12 "While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.     Hi Kevin,   Why do you think the Lord chose Judas to be an apostle in the first place?  Do you think he knew he would betray him? BlainerB    -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.