Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma

[knpraise]

Thanks  -- nice to know that I am on the right track once in awhile. 

 

OW DID TYLER DO LST EVENING????

 

Jd 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Taylor <wmtaylor@plains.net>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:52:32 -0600
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma

This is a very helpful post, John. I think you may be onto something concerning the exchange between Peter and Jesus.

 

Thanks,

 

Bill

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Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:15 AM

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma

 

 
Linda,   I could copy over your post (that little "G: or "j" thing - again and this time, it appparently originated with my machine)

 

The question you said I did not answer was asked in greater detail for the first in that "j" post.

 

Here is my answer.   We must not separate the emotion of love from the action of love.   To say that "love is kind" is not to say that "love is not an emotion."   The I Cor 13 text speaks of love and says that it "rejoices in truth."  Rejoicing is an _expression_ of an emotion.   This whole idea that "agapeo" is not of an emotional root is ridiculous.   In the common Greek language of so many years ago,  "agapeo" was a work-horse word, used to describe a whole range of expressions including, on rare occasion, sex  (Liddel & Scott).   It was the Modern Church back in the 1970's that played up the love affair with this word.  And so, it was Agape This and Agape That .   The (in)famous exchange between Peter and Jesus ("Do you agapeo me"   "Yes I phileo you') has Peter deliberately offering to His master a compromised love.   The fact of the matter IMO is this  --  Peter saw "agape" as not specific enough, so he offers to Christ the love of  friendship.   I have friends for whom I would literally die. If there is a purpose in this exchange having to do with the two words, perhaps we are seeing two men (Jesus and Peter) in (minor) conflict over the accepted use of these two words and when Christ finally uses Peter's wording, we find that the issue was not over words but over commitment................Do you love me   --  YES LORD I DO.   iF WE ARE NOT CAREFUL, WE HAVE ChRIST ASKING FOR (IN THIS FINAL AND THRID QUESTION) A COMPROMISED LOVE.  He died for our compromised life  -  but He never asks for compromise!!!  Believing this means, to me, that "phileo" is not a compromise.  

 

God expects us to care for Him emotionally, as one friend to another.  This exchange between Jesus and Peter leaves me with the appreciation that Christ INCLUDED the love of a friend in the word "agape."

 

 

 

Jd