Are you the Apostle of Lawlessness?
Lawless: Not subject to law; unrestrained by law
You preach The theology of "lawless grace"
Have you power then to absolve all responsibility for your actions?
Are we then to "sin that grace may abound"?
Is the Law of God illegal in your eyes?
A Christian has Liberty from Sin & Death, not Liberty to be LAWLESS
Antinomianism is Flawed
1 JN 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law
1 JN 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
"The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul" Ps 19:7
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John says, in >so many worfs, Jesus is wrong TerryNow, Terry is just making up stuff without giving a response to my objections."Come on in -- its FREE -- but you can't stay in our FREE home unless you pay $750 a month after the first month...................................and never ever forget, it's all FREE." TerryEither you are saved by works or you are not .......... many on this forum try to have it both ways.jd
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Perry Locke <cpl2602@hotmail.com>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:39:18 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14I hear you loud and clear, Terry.
>From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
>Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:37:13 -0500
>
>Just found this note from you, Perry. I don't know where it has been for >the last two days. To answer your question, I do not consider all of John's >comments to be pitiful. What is pitiful is that Jesus says in so many >words is that if you do not obey, you are not one of His, and John says, in >so many worfs, Jesus is wrong. Obedience means nothing. Just have faith.
>
>Satan knows that Jesus is the Savior, but Satan's disobedience has >eliminated him forever from Heaven. It is pitiful that John and many >other libs cannot see that simple truth.
>Terry
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>
>>Terry, can you take comment on these points one by one and let me know why >>you think each is pitiful. Thanks.
>>
>>Perry
>>
>>>From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
>>>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>>>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
>>>Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:22:24 -0500
>>>
>>>Pitiful.
>>>===========================================================
>>>
>>>knpraise@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>To argue that salvation is free but after the initial event, we must >>>>obey to maintain this salvation is wrong on several levels:
>>>> 1.. Such denies the unmeritorious gift of salvation by faith through >>>>grace and THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES, it is the gift of God. 2. It does >>>>not allo w for failure -- we must obey all of the law (cf. #4)
>>>> 3. It creates a system that is essentially the same as that of the >>>>Mosaic Covenant. 4. The blood of Christ, which replaced the >>>>continuing sacrifices of bulls and goats, is replaced by
>>>> by repeated confession of sins --- the disciple being lost >>>>until confession is presented and
>>>> repentance is evidences. 5. It denies that obedience >>>>extend from saving and vital faith -- demanding a soteriological value >>>>be
>>>> attached to works, in and of themselves!!! 6. It >>>>pronounces that what God could not do for man, man must do for himself >>>>!!
>>>> 7. It denies the need for the exchange of faith for righteousness >>>&g t;(Rom 4). JD
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
>>>>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>>>>Sent: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:05:32 -0500
>>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
>>>>
>>>>knpraise@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Specifically (if you know), what is the point here? Who denies that >>>> >we are blessed in following the advice of the Lord? Where, pray tell, >>>>>is it said that we are not saved until and unless we accomplish this >>>>>task? Where are those words? (Hint - they are not there). JD >>>>>===========================================================================
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>They may not be there in the words you have chosen to use, John, but >>>>they are there.
>>>>
>>>>"Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and do not the things that I tell you?"
>>>>Hint: Faith saves, but fruit is the proof of salvation. You produce >>>>fruit by doing as you are told by your Lord.. That is why He is called >>>>Lord. He is the guy in charge. We are His slaves. He orders, we obey.
>>>>
> ;>>> Put another way, if you do not do as He says, you are not His. It is >>>>important to understand that.
>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>>-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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