by contrast, G-m's apply (theoretical) obedience training, manipulating a dog to a certain behavior, to the subjects of NT because they never volunteered to love Love..On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:00:38 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:..volunteering to love Love, like the Ap John does, to love him who volunteers to love me perpetually, unconditionally, is the normal modern response to the NTit's rooted in (his) healing..On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:40:57 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.
No one who lives in him keeps on sinning.
1 John 3acc to the Ap john, JC voluntarily removes sin--all of it, perpetually
i volunteer to love them guys
my committment to them has nothin' to do with the superficial results of involuntary compliance
the truth is that JCs command no one can keep--heal! -- is saving me
i believe this
healing is not conditioned on obedience
and, since God himself, who can't be manipulated to heal, heals voluntarily, perpetually, (then) all obedience training is a farce..
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:41:15 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
for humans biblical salvation is purely voluntary, like the Alamo--you wanna defend the KoG in history with JC, cross his line in the sandthis is obedience to him--salvation (via 'a crucifixion') you volunteer for is just that, voluntarywho, then, as a volunteer, has any right to compel the involuntary religious obedience of another?while the G-m's (God-manipulators) among us do exactly that requiring y/our compliance by a certain force, ask 'compliance? to whom?'i'd say these G-m types never volunteered for nothin' worth volunteerin' for and that's their real problem; FTR, neither God's nor mineOn Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:32:32 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:To argue that salvation is free but after the initial event, we must obey to maintain this salvation is wrong on several levels:||6. [re: pronouncing] 'that what God could not do for man, man must do for himself !!'||
..the point is that
the G-m response is abnormal if not antiChrist in NT
terms
if you don't
believe it, experiment on your dog--get him to heal without getting sick of
it
is your Bowser
already sick?
heal
him!
g
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