Hi Judy, where did you come up with this idea concerning bishops "who wanted to stay true to scripture and resisted adding an extra biblical definition"? To my knowledge, I've not come across it before. Would you please substantiate it referentially?
 
Bill
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No I am not speaking of Arian JD.  When I say Berean I am talking about the Bishops who
wanted to stay true to scripture and resisted adding an extra biblical definition.  This is being
"Berean" as per Acts 17:11.
 
 
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 20:39:51 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You speak of Arian when you say "the 'Berean'  (whatever that is) bishops finally caved? 
 
JD 
 
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:10:26 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 It does not appear that we are talking about just the eternal Sonship of Christ  --  but something that is bigger and even more important.   Judy, please be careful, here, that in your zeal to disagree with me that you are not misrepresenting your own beliefs.
 
jt: I agree with the statement above JD
My belief is that our disagreement most likely goes all the way back to the council of Nicea in May 325AD where they eventually agreed to redefine God using a Greek word that is totally unscriptural - For this reason they had problems getting complete agreement - but the "Berean" bishops finally caved. 
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jt: I don't trust your memory Bill.  I would have to see this because this does not sound like anything I even believe...
The Arians didn't cave .. they were hunted down as hereticks by Athanasius just like the Donatists were hunted
down by Augustine and Servetus was hunted down by Calvin.
 
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 09:06:09 -0600 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
If it is in response to the dialogue between DavidM and me, then you should know that I do not advocate Docetism,
Donatism, Arianism, or any other ism.
 
That's interesting, Judy. I seem to remember you referring to the Arian bishops at Nicea as the "Bereans," who finally caved into Athanasius' teaching. How is this not advocating Arianism?  Bill 
 
 
Thanks so much for this outline Kats (is it?)
 
If it is in response to the dialogue between DavidM and me, then you should know that I do not advocate Docetism,
Donatism, Arianism, or any other ism.
 
You write: Jesus was both divine and human but perhaps we do not think often enough of the humanity of Jesus.  Jesus came to break down barriers between between God and us and if do not acknowledge the humanity of Jesus, that Jesus was like us in every way except sin as the Letter to the Hebrews says in 4:15, we are erecting barriers between God and us once again. Also Heb 2:17-18 states. "It was essential that he should be made completely like his brothers so that he could become a compassionate and trustworthy high priest for their relationship to God, able to expaite the sins of the people.  For the suffering he himself passed through while being put to the test enables him to help others when they are being put to the test."
 
jt: Just wondering if you hold to what is known as "Orthodoxy" Kats.
 
 
"Christ Jesus... thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men..." Philippians 2:5-7

 
 

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