Hi Judy, where did you come up with this idea
concerning bishops "who
wanted to stay true to scripture and resisted
adding an extra biblical definition"? To my knowledge, I've not come
across it before. Would you please substantiate it referentially?
Bill
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No I am not speaking of Arian JD. When I say
Berean I am talking about the Bishops who
wanted to stay true to scripture and resisted
adding an extra biblical definition. This is being
"Berean" as per Acts 17:11.
You speak of Arian when you say "the 'Berean' (whatever that
is) bishops finally caved?
JD -----Original Message----- From: Bill Taylor
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It does not appear that we are talking
about just the eternal Sonship of Christ -- but
something that is bigger and even more important. Judy,
please be careful, here, that in your zeal to disagree with me that you
are not misrepresenting your own beliefs.
jt: I agree with the statement above
JD
My belief is that our disagreement most
likely goes all the way back to the council of Nicea in May
325AD where they eventually agreed to redefine God
using a Greek word that is totally unscriptural - For this reason
they had problems getting complete agreement - but the
"Berean" bishops finally caved.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity
of Jesus
jt: I don't trust your memory Bill. I would
have to see this because this does not sound like anything I even
believe...
The Arians didn't cave .. they were hunted down
as hereticks by Athanasius just like the Donatists were
hunted
down by Augustine and Servetus was hunted down by
Calvin.
If it is in response to the dialogue between
DavidM and me, then you should know that I do not advocate
Docetism,
Donatism, Arianism, or any other
ism.
That's interesting, Judy. I seem to remember you referring to the
Arian bishops at Nicea as the "Bereans," who finally caved into
Athanasius' teaching. How is this not advocating Arianism?
Bill
Thanks so much for this outline Kats (is
it?)
If it is in response to the dialogue between
DavidM and me, then you should know that I do not advocate
Docetism,
Donatism, Arianism, or any other
ism.
You write: Jesus was both divine and human but perhaps we do not
think often enough of the humanity of Jesus. Jesus came to break
down barriers between between God and us and if do not acknowledge the
humanity of Jesus, that Jesus was like us in every
way except sin as the Letter to the Hebrews says in 4:15, we
are erecting barriers between God and us once again. Also Heb
2:17-18 states. "It was essential that he should be made completely
like his brothers so that he could become a compassionate and
trustworthy high priest for their relationship to God, able to expaite
the sins of the people. For the suffering he himself passed
through while being put to the test enables him to help others when
they are being put to the test."
jt: Just wondering if you hold to what
is known as "Orthodoxy" Kats.
"Christ Jesus... thought it not
robbery to be equal with God: But made Himself of no reputation, and
took upon Him the form of a servant, and
was made in the likeness of men..."
Philippians 2:5-7
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