First, I did not complain about anything.  I merely entered an article that I did not write into the discussion  ....   making your first "what's the beef" question ill informed.  
 
Your  second  "what's the beef question" has this answer:  the same totals should have been spent on those items.   Only the heartless would disagree. 
 
You misrepresent me when  you say "you complain when we fight a war."   Actually, my complaint has been consistent and it is this  --  I am against fighting wars that we do not intend on winning.  Fighting to win trumps talking to win.   Try reading my posts with a view to remembering what I write.   It is sad that you do not see the crisis in some of the categories included in the article I included.   Those categories are just as important as any war we have "fought" in the last 50 years.  
 
Finally, you write  BTW, pork and graft are the main elements in D.C. social programs that you wish we had more of.as if this were some kind of argument against taking care of the needs listed in that article  -  of elevating those needs to the same concerns as "self defense."  
 
JD
 
 
 
 
 
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First you complain about spending the money on the war, and then you say you are not comforted by the fact that the money is going into our economy.  (So what?s the beef?)  You have correctly stated that the money was never spent on the things you say the money could have been spent on instead.  (So what?s the beef?)  You complain that when we fight a war, suddenly the money is there.  If you find out that you have a life-threatening cancer that needs cutting out, don?t you get it done whether or not the money is ?there??  It?s all about self defense.  (Remember ?9-11????)  BTW, pork and graft are the main elements in D.C. social programs that you wish we had more of. (So wake up!) izzy 
 

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It is no secret that our type of economy is a wartime economy.  I believe that this fact was  a driving force in the initial phases of the Vietnam War.   I am not comforted by the remark "This money is going into our economy ..."  If I were going to make some sort of argument from those numbers, I would say some thing to to this effect:   we have needed these dollars for the items listed for years and years.  They are never allocated.   But when we fight a war,  suddenly the money is there.  When we speak of the "economy,"  I beleive that we included a thing called "pork" and another little item called "graft." 
 
JD 
 

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