Kevin: Y'all confuse HONESTY with HATEFULNESS. Y'all don't SPEAK, Kevin, y'all SPEW! JD has recognized this 'bout y'all since I bin on TT.
 
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Sent: September 29, 2005 15:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality

Stop being so HATEfull Lance.

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
He did indeed 'hit sin on the head', Judy. Mostly however, he hit it on the head with those in the 'churches' of His day. That ring any bells with any of you out there? (Judy, Kevin, Iz) At whom/with whom do we see His anger most expressed? At whom/with whom do we see the opposite? Why look, it's the very ones y'all choose to hate, demonstrate against etc. Hmmmmmmmmmm strange hugh? Do we all read the same Bible?
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Sent: September 29, 2005 07:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality

Why arn't you talking about the "gay issue?"  We are supposed to minister the way Jesus did as He is our example
and He always hit sin head on ie He confronted the rich young ruler with his heart of covetousness which he was not
yet willing to part with.  Jesus didn't chase after him and keep talking about grace.  He did minister to those God showed
Him and warned them to go and sin no more lest a worse thing come upon them.  But He didn't minister to everyone he met.
Today we take sin so lightly because we don't believe God means what He says or that the chaos in our lives is rooted
in sin and unrighteousness.  God is supposed to bless this mess because of grace, because he loves us so much and this
is the lie.  He will not do it because to do so He would have to violate His own Word.  You can talk grace till the cows
come home but until this person hears the truth and is willing to repent from the heart God will not honor your words JD. 
 
 
 
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:15:10 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Well,  maybe God has put us together "for such a time as this."   Right now the relationship is something of a novelty  --   at least for him.   My conversation with him is different from "the others."  So,  maybe I might be able to make sense to him.    What I am not doing is talking about the gay issue, per se.  He is but I am trying to get him to stop and examine what it means when it says that "Christ died for us while we were YET sinners."   My concern is that he understand the gospel of grace  and , and, and, what it really mean s to be "saved."    The new birth will produce   -  given time   ..............  so that is where I begin  -----------   with the new birth.    JD
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I wish you well.  Terry
 


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