Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:40:51 -0700

Just for the record   --------    my comments have been limited to "brother"  or "Christian" when it comes to Dh.   I have made it clear that neither term,  IMO, argues for his "salvation."   I am not the Judge and am not equipped to make that determination.   Do we not agree with that conclusion?   II Thess 3:14-16  presents one who is definitely out of the graces of the church.   In fact, he is to be avoided in some way.   BUT he is a brother   --   entreat him not as an enemy , but as a brother.  That verse allows me to say what I say.   If Judy Taylor does not believe that Christ was the eternal son of God and was fully God on earth (and fully man), then her Jesus is different from mine.        That is my problem, here.  
 
Now, does DH believe that Christ is the eternal son of God and, therefore, God Himself?   I have heard that our God of this earth is not the main God  --  or however it is said.   Is He an integral part of the truine God?   Does He live within the believer as the guiding force in the believer's life?   Is our God (of this earth) the God of  all that is made?   If the answers to these questions are a collective YES,  will, then,  there is some reason to continue this discussion, as far as I am concerned.  
 
But I do not put DH in heaven.   And if he winds up there,  living down the block from me,   it will not be because of Joe Smith   .............................    I do believe this to be true,  
 
 
JD

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> From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>
> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
> Date: 10/18/2005 10:06:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller
>
> May I take issue with that statement, Perry? If you mean that not
countering
> every heretical opinion is tacit acceptance I must disagree. We can't
spend
> our entire lives disagreeing with heretical statements or that would be
all
> we would ever do.  I think when the opportunity arises for us to speak up
we
> should take it, as I believe everyone on TT has done regarding the mormon
> issue.  But to contradict each statement they make is not my calling.
> Perhaps, indeed, it is yours--but I know I have not been called to do
that.
> You can ask DaveH if he is aware of my stance on his beliefs, but I'd
guess
> he is quite aware.  izzy 

cd; Sister I write this with great respect toward you and by no means do I
want to take away from what you are-but the refusal to debate every point
of a pagan is a far cry from calling one brother or supporting a pagan to
moderate this site in a position of authority( I know you know this and
watched him play on you emotions even after you first said that "you would
cross that bridge when you came to it").It does not do Dave H. (nor you)
any good to allow him to believe that he is one of God's heirs and hence
has salvation-when in fact he is a poor- miserable- naked- lost man with no
hope at all without conforming to the word of God.After the first billion
years in hell the fire doesn't cool down and the worm doesn't die-even
though DaveH doesn't believe in hell-so how is he saved from something her
doesn't even believe in? He has this one life now and God put him with
us-follow you directive.Rebuke them so they will know to fear God.
 1 Tim.5:21 Those that continue in sin,rebuke in the presence of all,so
that the rest also will be fearful of sinning. 21 I solemnly charge you in
the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of his chosen angels, to
maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in the spirit of
partiality (ASV).
>



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