ancient Greek the word was "Day Star"
LDS god lives near Kolob
JW god lives on Alcyone
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the FATHER of both (Jehovahs Witness & Mormon ) Religions ( and all others ) had something to do with a star.
2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."
In his early days, Brooke F. Westcott, (one of those who brought us the new versions) took on the study of Mormonism and he studied the book of Mormon. And remember in Mormon belief, Jesus and Satan were brothers. Both presented their salvation plans to God the Father and God chose the one presented by Jesus. The influence of Hort and Westcott is still very heavy upon modern theologians and bible translators. So it would follow that if Westcott believed Mormonism, then some of that belief would have trickled down through the false seminaries and into the belief systems of translators. "He took a strange interest in Mormonism . . procuring and studying the Book of Mormon." Westcott, Vol. 1, p. 19.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
IS 14:12-13 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground...For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the
stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Occult Parallels:
The Babylonians believed that the planet Venus, when it appeared as a star in the morning, literally was Helel, the son of Shahar, and grandson of El. They worshipped Helel (compare to the hebrew ) the morning star and considered him one of the more important gods.
Isaiah 14:12, the Hebrew says "helel ben shachar"
http://demons.monstrous.com/demonclass_3.htm
Lucifer Hebrew helel; Septuagint heosphoros, Vulgate lucifer, light-bearer
Names : The Latin name of Phosphorus, Venus as the morning star, the light bringer which heralds the dawn. Lucifer as a personification is called a son of Astraeus and Aurora or Eos, of Cephalus and Aurora, or of Atlas. He is called the father of Ceyx, Daedalion, and of the Hesperides.
"For the Maya the importance of Venus, above all planets, cannot be overstated. It was called noh ek (great star), chac ek (red star), sastal ek (bright star), and xux ek (wasp star). We recall some of the statements the early chroniclers made about the Indians' propensity for watching it. Mexican friar Motolinia tells us that 'next to the sun they adored and made more sacrifices to this star than to any other celestial and terrestrial creature' (Nuttall, 1904, p.. 498) and 'they knew on what day it would appear again in the east after it had lost itself or disappeared in the west . . . ; they counted the days by this star and yielded reverence and offered sacrifices to it.' " (Anthony F. Aveni, Skywatchers of Ancient Mexico. Univ. of Texas Press, Austin p. 184)
In Mesopotamia the cuneiform sign for god was a star
The god of Bahá'í : Thou beholdest, O my God, the Day-Star... http://www.bahaiprayers.org/prison4.htm
Bahá'ís believe in one God who communicates with his creatures by means of messengers
SUMERIAN HELIACAL STAR RISINGS: Son of god #1 is Star ALAGAR (first sprouts of Spring) Aries (ß-Arietis) is the heliacal rising star at the Spring Equinox in 3800 B.C. http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi32.htm
In GREEK MYTHOLOGY, EOSPHOROS was the STAR-GOD of astron planetos (wandering star) Aphrodision, the Planet Venus. Also GOD OF THE MORNING STAR. He was known as Eosphoros (the Dawn Bringer) , being the last star to shining in the dawn sky, and as Hesperos (of the Evening) as the first to appear in the evening. The Translation of Eosphoros is LIGHT BEARER or BRINGER! "Sons of Apollo ... Philammon by Leuconoe, daughter of Luciferus [Eosphoros]." - Hyginus, Fabulae 161 "Brilliant in the dawn Lucifer (Morning-Star) had mounted high, the star that wakes the world to work." - Ovid, Metamorphoses 4.665
Mary worshiped by RCC is also known as "Morning Star", STAR OF THE THIRD MILLENNIUM and 'Star of the Sea' who guides us safely into heaven's port
http://www.scborromeo.org/saints/bvm.htm
"HAIL MARY Star of the Morning"http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymns_and_Carols/hail_mary_star_of_morning.htm
The symbol of islam is the The crescent, star. The roots of islam can be traced back to: "The first pre-Islamic inscription discovered in Dhofar Province, Oman, this bronze plaque, deciphered by Dr. Albert Jamme, dates from about the second century A.D. and gives the name of the Hadramaut moon good Sin and the name Sumhuram, a long-lost city....The moon was the chief deity of all the early South Arabian kingdomsparticularly fitting in that region where the soft light of the moon brought the rest and cool winds of night as a relief from the blinding sun and scorching heat of day. In contrast to most of the old religions with which we are familiar, the moon god is male, while the sun god is his consort, a female. The third god of importance is their child, the male morning star, which we know as the planet Venus...The spice route riches brought them a standard of
luxurious living inconceivable to the poverty-stricken South Arabian Bedouins of today. Like nearly all Semitic peoples they worshipped the moon, the sun, and the morning star. The chief god, the moon, was a male deity symbolized by the bull, and we found many carved bulls heads, with drains for the blood of sacrificed animals." Qataban and Sheba, Wendell Phillips, 1955, p. 227
MT 24:29 stars shall fall from heaven
Oxford English Dictionary "The morning star; the planet Venus when she appears before sunrise . . . ."
"Thou that thoughtest thy selfe most glorious, and as it were placed in the heaven: for the morning starre that goeth before the sunne is called Lucifer, to whom Nebuchad-nezzar is compared." (Geneva Bible, 1599 ed. [1560 ed. differs only in spelling]).
Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the
star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
NAH! Could not be anything to it.
Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: DaveSent: 10/30/2005 12:32:04 PMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to knowcd: By the way I am not anti-Mormon-
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree with you, Dean. As we (LDS folks) define it, you seem to qualify.cd: Lets put it this way-I am no more against Mormons then I am against Catholics,Moslems,Sodomites...etc I am against anything that promotes another truth when there is only one truth.But I am for the person and against the spirit behind the lie -if this wasn't so I wouldn't be trying to help you escape hell in Jesus Christ.
And....yes, you are correct. Sometimes I have had meaningful discussions with you, even though I'm sure you find me still ignorant in matters of truth. I appreciate you continuing to chat with me despite my presumed ignorance.cd: Ignorance in our language isn't a bad word or a put down-it means that one simple doesn't know certain topics or facts. I am ignorant about many areas of Mormon religion such as what is Pay-lay ale? Yet I understand that to be the brother of Christ-Satan isn't viewed in your religion to be such a bad guy.So to you doing a chant invoking his name isn't the worst one can do. But for the matter of our discussion Lucifer is not another name of Satan-this is a mistake in the meaning of the translation.In the ancient Greek the word was "Day Star" and refereed to the Babylon Prince Belshazzar ( I think that was his name) and was comparing men to stars and Belshazzar was the most powerful man as Venus was the brightest morning star hence to name Lucifer-which by the way the only time this name is used in the bible (Isaiah 14:12) .In a deeper search The word actually means "Howl"The NASB is more correct here then the KJV.
Dean Moore wrote:cd: By the way I am not anti-Mormon- I am pro Bible. There is a difference.I have not singled out Mormons to attack-they just happen to get in the way of my offered truth. I have actually had some good discussions with a lot of Mormons and found then to be well educated-but still ignorant in matters of truth.----- Original Message -----
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