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> From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: 11/8/2005 9:33:33 AM
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?
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> I agree, Dean.  But what if they made their vows before God but didn't
have
> a traditional civil marriage ceremony?  Does God still consider them to be
> married? I think so.  I'm not advocating that in any way, but I DO think
God
> recognizes the couple as married in HIS eyes--which is what really counts,
> isn't it? Iz
 cd: Yes-There is a point of interest that should be noted. To have a
Pastor do the ceremony is to invoke God into the vows-assuming the Pastor
is a praying warrior-in a stronger way  and this also makes the couple hold
the ceremony in a higher regard as to keep the vows. Just a thought.
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:17 AM
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> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?
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> >
> >
> > So if two teenagers are having sexual relations, are they married in 
> > God's viewpoint? I think not if they have not made a lifetime 
> > commitment to each other before God. But if they have I think they are 
> > married in God's
> eyes.  
> >
> > What if a single man and woman are the only inhabitants on a deserted
> island
> > and decide to marry each other for life?  Does God hold it against 
> > them
> that
> > they have no civil ceremony or witnesses? I think not. In fact, there 
> > is
> no
> > model of a marriage ceremony in the Bible, which makes me think that 
> > is pretty unimportant--it's the commitment to each other before God 
> > that matters, both before and after the marriage, and that makes it a 
> > real marriage IMO. And no "takiebackies".  FWIW, iz
>
> cd: Sister Izzy I believe that these two would still have to make the vows
> before God-if not it's just fornication -There was no Minister for Adam
and
> Eve's marriage in the Garden but they committed their lives to each other
> -as they were together for life.The vows are our covenant with spouse and
> God.In the Torah there were signs for a covenant such as piling up
> stones-later wittiness's were used as a way of offering proof of the vows
> which validate the marrage.I ,in effect, told my wife upon marriage-if you
> give yourself to me then I will provide/protect and love you till
> death-others wittiness this promise in case I attempt to break it-in the
> torah there were stiff penalties for doing so-such penalties exist today.
> >
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