> [Original Message] > From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> > Date: 11/8/2005 9:33:33 AM > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer? > > I agree, Dean. But what if they made their vows before God but didn't have > a traditional civil marriage ceremony? Does God still consider them to be > married? I think so. I'm not advocating that in any way, but I DO think God > recognizes the couple as married in HIS eyes--which is what really counts, > isn't it? Iz cd: Yes-There is a point of interest that should be noted. To have a Pastor do the ceremony is to invoke God into the vows-assuming the Pastor is a praying warrior-in a stronger way and this also makes the couple hold the ceremony in a higher regard as to keep the vows. Just a thought. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:17 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer? > > > > > > > > > > So if two teenagers are having sexual relations, are they married in > > God's viewpoint? I think not if they have not made a lifetime > > commitment to each other before God. But if they have I think they are > > married in God's > eyes. > > > > What if a single man and woman are the only inhabitants on a deserted > island > > and decide to marry each other for life? Does God hold it against > > them > that > > they have no civil ceremony or witnesses? I think not. In fact, there > > is > no > > model of a marriage ceremony in the Bible, which makes me think that > > is pretty unimportant--it's the commitment to each other before God > > that matters, both before and after the marriage, and that makes it a > > real marriage IMO. And no "takiebackies". FWIW, iz > > cd: Sister Izzy I believe that these two would still have to make the vows > before God-if not it's just fornication -There was no Minister for Adam and > Eve's marriage in the Garden but they committed their lives to each other > -as they were together for life.The vows are our covenant with spouse and > God.In the Torah there were signs for a covenant such as piling up > stones-later wittiness's were used as a way of offering proof of the vows > which validate the marrage.I ,in effect, told my wife upon marriage-if you > give yourself to me then I will provide/protect and love you till > death-others wittiness this promise in case I attempt to break it-in the > torah there were stiff penalties for doing so-such penalties exist today. > > > > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know > how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.