Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:45:23 -0800

Don't get so EMOTIONAL JD!
 
Dean saw the light, others do not WILL to see it. Why are you so upset and emotional?
I have never seen you so out of sorts.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dean,   practice your brand of legalism on someone else.   Your side of the room abides in the offensive.  I have been insulted in so many ways it is not funny.   So, just stick to the subject at hand,  and accept what I say at face value.   If I want to insult you,   it will be clear that this is what I am doing.  Asking you to buy a book does not qualify.   I assumed you had no books on the subject because of your apparent reverence for what Kevin was saying.   If you have books on this subject  -- USE THEM.    
 
What is the conclusion here,  Dean?   That the KJV is inspired and the only trustworthy translation? 
 
 
JD
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Moore <cd_moore@earthlink.net>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:55:20 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

 
 
 
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Sent: 11/12/2005 11:01:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Get some books,  Dean, and answer this question yourself!!   My NASV says  "by everthing that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord"  while my NKJV  says "by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord."      Hardly a "lie."   
 
Jd 
By the way I have some "books"-why do you try to offend me John? Paul said if it offended his brother then He wouldn't eat meat all his days-Yet you seek to offend me and are breaking the 11th commandment doing so to you hurt not mine.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:52:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

 
 
 
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Sent: 11/12/2005 8:34:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Now that is gonna take prayer & fasting!
cd: Then we do it together- What first got my attention was Luke 4:4 did not agree with Deut 8:3 it has -by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God- and the NASV lied by omitting this here-one has to ask them selves why Christ's words were omitted. Try skipping breakfast tomorrow-as will I-and we both will pray for him instead of eating-and I will get him on this site in a few days-if I find his e-mail address. Thoughts?

Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
cd: Now I know why I was lead to keep pushing you on this subject-Truth was yet to be had-We need to warn J.Webber.
 
 
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Sent: 11/12/2005 8:21:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

PTL! Brother
God answer prayers!
 
There is a lot more it is really ugly
 
check this out:
NWT  LU 4:4 "It is written man must not live by bread alone"
NASV same as JW bible
What is missing?
 
Who is messing with it?
LU 4:8 KJV Get thee behind me, Satan
NASV MIA
NWT MIA
Who would want to remove Satan?
 
change the glorious truth of God into a lie:
KJV John 1:18 - "The only begotten Son, ... He hath declared Him."
NASV John 1:18 - "The only begotten God, ... He has explained Him."
NWT (Jehovah Witness) - "The only begotten God...is the one that has explained Him."
WOW! so the JW's are right there is a BIG God and a little god
 
Rom 14:10 - 12 KJV "For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ...so then every one of us shall give account of himself to God".
Here is another very plain statement of the Deity of our Lord Jesus. We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ...to give account of ourselves to GOD. The teaching is obvious.
The NASV once again joins with the New World Translation of the Jehovah Witnesses, and others to eliminate this plain statement of our Lord's Deity.
The process employed is very simple. The judgment seat of CHRIST, is altered to read "The judgment seat of GOD". Now their version no longer clearly teaches His Deity at this point.
Yet the high falootin scholars did a oops and left a contradiction in 2Corinthians 5:10 left it alone to read "The judgment seat of Christ". OOPS!
 
NASV is a Jehovah Witness bible!

Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Sent: 11/12/2005 7:25:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

1 Tim 3:16 says "who" was __HE_____ in the flesh? God or he?
(All men {"he"} are revealed in the flesh but it would be something unusual for god to be manifest in the flesh)
cd: "He" with caps is refering to God in my Bible-Common names is "he".I find no fault here bro.
 
 
Luke 4:4 man lives by what? _Man shall not live by bread alone________________
cd: We do have a problem here with the NASV bro.
Lu 4:8 get behind me ________?
cd: I have seen enough-I give- you win bro and so the the KJV-Thank you and may God bless you and His light shine upon you bringing you peace:-)

Col 1:14  Redemption & Forgiveness come through the ________ of Christ?
 
Mt 9:13 Christ came to call sinners to _____________?
 
Acts 8:37 If the Ethiopian _________ he could be baptized?
 

Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com> wrote:
This little quiz was designed for the NIV but since the NIV & the NASV have the same father try it out with your NASV
 
1. Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies, ________ them that curse you, _____________ to them that hate you, and pray for them that __________ and persecute you."

2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of devil?

3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth?

4. According to Matthew 27:2, what was Pilate's first name?

5. In Matthew 27:35, when the wicked soldiers parted His garments, they were fulfilling the words of the prophet. Copy what the prophet said in Matthew 27:35 from the NIV.

6. In Mark 3:15, Jesus gave the apostles power to cast out devils and to:

7. According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to be able to hear?

8. According to Luke 7:28, what was John? (teacher, prophet, carpenter, etc.). What is his title or last name?

9. In Luke 9:55, what did the disciples not know?

10. In Luke 9:56, what did the Son of man not come to do? According to this verse, what did He c ome to do?

11. In Luke 22:14, how many apostles were with Jesus?

12. According to Luke 23:38, in what three languages was the superscription written?

13. In Luke 24:42, what did they give Jesus to eat with His fish?

14. John 3:13 is a very important verse, proving the deity of Christ. According to this verse (as Jesus spoke), where is the Son of man?

15. What happened each year as told in John 5:4?

16. In John 7:50, what time of day did Nicodemus come to Jesus?

17. In Acts 8:37, what is the one requirement for baptism?

18. What did Saul ask Jesus in Acts 9:6?

19. Write the name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34.

20. Study Acts 24:6-8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What was the chief captain's name? What did the chief captain command?

21. Copy Romans 16:24 word for word from the NIV.

22. First Timothy 3:16 is perhaps the greatest verse in the New Testament concerning the deity of Christ. In this verse, who was manifested in th e flesh?

23. In the second part of First Peter 4:14, how do [they] speak of Christ? And, what do we Christians do?

24. Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in First John 5:7?

25. Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of Christ. In the first part of this verse Jesus said, "I am the A__________ and O___________ , the _________ and the _______:" 

If these 25 questions haven't served to show you that the NIV & NASV are not reliabl e and have been messed with. I can send 25 more questions, or 250, if you wish
Both these "bibles" are based on the same MUTILATED manuscripts. Incidently lets compare your NASV with the Jehovah Witness Bible the NWT. I think you will find they are the same. Again because they all come from the same tampered corrupted manuscripts. 



So where is the EZ part of defeating the NASV?
 
So then the true word of God is not filled with error (as in the NWT or BoM) neither does it contain 1% ERROR!
Prov 30:5 every word of God is pure
No lie is of the truth I Jn 2:21
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law Mt 5:18
The scripture cannot be broken" John 10:35
 
The Word can not be lost:
God's Word "endureth for ever" I Pet. 1:25.
"My words shall not pass away" Luke 21:33.
"Thou shalt preserve them" Ps. 12:6-7.

So how many errors does it take to disqualify a phony?
How many wrong characteristics in ones faith before it is error?
How many wrong characteristics in a dollar bill before it is considered a phony?
How many errors in a bible before it is considered a phony? 
 
cd: It seems as we have been here before or is it Dasha'vou ( ignor the spelling)-Go ahead I 'm listening.
 

Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 
 
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Sent: 11/12/2005 5:41:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

The 99 remaining pages would be 100% pure
And only if you are a Mormon could you believe that God lost some truth
and now it is found!
 
cd: Not I said the other branch of the non- protestants-but I am getting concerned as some of the stuff he said earlier was making sense.I think I may have been around too long this time-If I start calling him brother please rebuke me quickly as I was KJV only before I can to this site last year but Webber and I was converted-both at one time- be careful brother the same can happen to you:-) I do think God has provided us with his word in modern tongue and will (with God's help) seek to prove this if I can ever get past the Calvin belief being pushed on this site-that infection can spread.

Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 
 
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Sent: 11/12/2005 10:11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

 I am simply stating that even if the Bible is missing a page then we can still know truth for Christ is on many pages from the OT to the NT. It then would be 99% pure as you asked and I believe acceptable as truth.
 
NO!
 
If there were 100 pages and one was missing;
 
It would be 99% COMPLETE
YET
100% pure!
 
Prov 30:5 Every word of God is pure
 
No impurities in God's word.
 
cd: Okay I can agree with that as we are splitting hairs-but remember the KJV will also have to live up to that definition you are giving-be prepared. So where is the EZ part of defeating the NASV?


Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/12/2005 9:11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

cd: Depending on if a page is torn out
 
maybe I misunderstand you?
So you are going to Edit the word?
Author God
Editor Dean
cd: Ouch brother but you already are forgiving:-) I am simply stating that even if the Bible is missing a page then we can still know truth for Christ is on many pages from the OT to the NT. It then would be 99% pure as you asked and I believe acceptable as truth.

Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Sent: 11/12/2005 8:40:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Today the word of God is in every form that speaks the truth of God's word.
 
The new world translation "contains" & speaks some truth.
cd: So did Satan but he lacked the word.
Is it then the Word of God?
cd: No.
The Book o Mormon contains some, is it?
cd: No.
How much truth/how much error in God's word?
cd: As much truth as possible.
Mostly true OK? 99% pure?
cd: Depending on if a page is torn out or not-and can I find truth without that page:-)
Where does one draw the line?
cd: Depends on which page was torn out.


Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/11/2005 10:33:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

I think a question for you would be a good start
 
Before the time of Moses, where was the word of God?
Today where is the word of God?

cd: sounds like a good idea Kevin. Gen.26:6 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge,my commandments,my statues,and my laws. One can assume with reasonable rational that Abraham would have written down something that he had devoted his life too.
 Exodus 16:28 And the Lord said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?Moses was then reminded of the sabbath.So then there was a written law before MT Sinai Kevin.
Today the word of God is in every form that speaks the truth of God's word.No matter the version name but the version that speaks truth.It is therefore left for you to show that the NASV does not speak truth as you have claimed brother.
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