Amen CPL!! What's up with that Dave? You just finished saying what you'd
learned of Protestants (and those like 'em) on TT. Are you reading for
understanding or, just to critique?
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From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
Sent: November 18, 2005 12:28
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!
Dave, why are you arguing with Christians who many many times have told
you that we believe, from scripture, that God the Father is a Spirit? You
keep trying to argue with Christians on that point, which you have asked
and heard the answer over and over. If you really want to know what
"protestants" believe, then accept that fact, and accept the scriptures
that are repeatedly used to demonstrate that to you. remeber, we get are
facts from the Bible, not extra-biblical heretical works.
When you continue to ask us over and over and over why we don't think God
the Father has flesh and bones, you are no longer trying to learn, and are
flat out ignoring what you have been told over and over...at that point
you are trying to convince us otherwise. That is called proselytizing,
which you claim you are not here to do!
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Moses sees god's face and lives in the PoGP!
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:55:22 -0800
_*If he is a MAN what is that man made of?*_
DAVEH: Jesus in his current resurrected state is /flesh and bone/, as
you correctly stated.......
_*Lu 24:9 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and
see; for a *spirit* hath not* flesh and bones*, as ye see me have.*_
_*When he was resurrected He became Flesh & BONE (What happened to the
blood He is Not Spirit BUT He is also NOT Flesh & Blood right now. He is
Flesh & Bone)*_
...........So why did you feel the need to suggest the *Father is NOT
FLESH & BLOOD!!!!*.......it was not an issue.
However, since Jesus has a physical body of /flesh and bone/, then it
might give one reason to ponder whether or not his Father in heaven might
also be likewise composed.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
_*If he is a MAN what is that man made of?*_
*Gingerbread?*
*/Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
*THEREFORE as you can see, the Father is NOT FLESH & BLOOD!!!!*
DAVEH: ??? Huh!?!?!?! Who said anything about the *Father
*being *FLESH & BLOOD*??? Why do you make this stuff up, Kevin?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Of course He is God always was God and if you do not think He is
God you will DIE IN YOUR SINS Jesus said so.
JN 8:24 if ye believe not that *I am* he, *ye shall die in your
sins*.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon
Barjona: for *flesh and blood* hath not revealed it unto thee,
*but my Father* which is in heaven.
The Father revealed it
Flesh & Blood did not reveal it
*THEREFORE as you can see, the Father is NOT FLESH & BLOOD!!!!*
** There are many verses talking about MAN that refer to Flesh
&
Blood Such as:
Hb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the *children* are *partakers of flesh
and blood*, he also himself *likewise took part of the same*;
that through death he might destroy him that had the power of
death, that is, the devil
Now notice that Jesus partook of Flesh & Blood himself when He
became manifest IN the Flesh. Previous to this point he was not
manifest as Flesh & blood.
BUT
_*Lu 24:9 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself:
handle me, and see; for a *spirit* hath not* flesh and bones*, as
ye see me have.*_
_*When he was resurrected He became Flesh & BONE (What happened
to the blood He is Not Spirit BUT He is also NOT Flesh & Blood
right now. He is Flesh & Bone)*_
*/Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
*Anyone can se e the physical shell that surrounded God in
the FLESH*
DAVEH: So if that is the case, then why was not Moses
allowed to see God's face?
*How could a Mortal BODY contain ALL of the IMMORTAL
INVISIBLE OMNIPRESENT OMNISCIENT God?*
DAVEH: By becoming an immortal resurrected being, as did
Jesus. Do you believe Jesus currently has a physical body,
Kevin? And, do you believe he is fully God?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
*NO Contradiction DH.*
Jesus is the PHYSICAL representation of God who is an
INVISIBLE Spirit!
Just like no one but the High priest could go into
the Holy
of Holies in the Temple but once a year. Even the High
Priest would die if he broke rules.
Anyone could see the Temple shell that surrounds the Holy of
Holies
*Anyone can see the physical shell that surrounded God in
the FLESH*
It is His physical representation it is NOT his ESSENCE
We are told that the whole universe can not contain Go d.
*How could a Mortal BODY contain ALL of the IMMORTAL
INVISIBLE OMNIPRESENT OMNISCIENT God?*
It was just the EXPRESS Image or Representation of a
LIMITLESS God in a Limited TEMPLE of FLESH!
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Dave Hansen
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