Should there be any intrinsic value in this
activity whatsoever Judy, it'd be this: Those who respond to you, ITO, 'in
kind', IMO, are mistaken. I am, believe it or not, speaking on YOUR behalf.
(Yes, I do understand that you are not in need of me doing so). Most all
successful communication Judy, is based upon the apprehension of one another's
intent and meaning. The ever amorphous 'they' see invective while I see you just
being ..well..you. Let me say that, should you ever comprehend the hurt you
actually do inflict, however unintentional it may be, it's be a step forward.
Two excellent titles by the author Deborah Tannen (Phd on Gender &
Discourse) are: 'You just don't understand' and, 'That's not what I
meant'.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: November 26, 2005 06:40
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy on
...well....Judy
Here we go again - with you illustrating my point
made below as well. All five of this mornings lines consistare
solely of
your diagnosis and
personal opinion about persons who are members of this list.
Thanks. You illustrate my central point. This
is why I continue to say that your intent is not as perceived by some. I DO
BELIEVE IT IS NOT YOUR INTENT TO HURT OR WOUND. BTW, I also believe that you
do not write to accrue to yourself allies. However, you have them in Kevin,
Terry, David, Christine and, cd. (Linda strikes me as a Proverbs 31 kinda
woman. She appears as a friend to the friendless and a raconteur. When she
goes beyond one line she is often a delight to read.)
You are Bill and not Lance who made the
"accusation" to begin with but apparently you two are
open to the same kinds of thoughts. ATST the two of you are either unaware or ignorant as to
just how patronizing and arrogant most of what
you write to the list is for others.
Most everything Lance writes is an opinion that
includes a non flattering judgment toward somebody's person rather than a
contribution toward the subject at hand. And you Bill are so
far off into academia that you are speaking in another tongue
most of the time so far as I am concerned
anyway.
The red letters below are definitely
NOT "invective filled" I wrote them in good faith without
the intent to injure or wound and I do not consider myself the enemy of
either of you. It would be a good thing if both of you learned
just who your enemy is in reality because this is just one more of his
firey darts.
Great peace have they that love Thy Law
and nothing offends them (causes them to stumble)
Psalm
119:165
What "invective" filled language
Lance?
Examples please....
Oh the ignorance of those who don't
see things the way you do again Lance along with the fact that you are
unable or unwilling to produce an example of invective filled language
coming from me.
Let's see "INVECTIVE"
Okay, more
below:
Hmmm - Just as I thought, the Holy
Spirit has been fired and men have taken over; men who exalt Greek
present passive verbs..
OK Kevin God has spoken ... so now forever hold your
peace.....
[I]t's not easy to try and sort
out what Bill is saying here with Plato sitting in the RH
corner
Amazing how the devil
jumps in and shuts it down just when it starts getting good isn't
it??
Thank you for being a friend,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005
10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean
Moore
Oh the ignorance of those who don't see
things the way you do again Lance along with the fact that you are
unable or
unwilling to produce an example of invective
filled language coming from me. Let's see
"INVECTIVE"
Noah Webster 1828 - Invective Noun .... A railing
speech or _expression_; something uttered or written intended to cast
opprobrium, censure or reproach on another; a harsh or reproachful
accusation. It differs from reproof as the
latter may come from a friend and be intended for the good of the
person reproved; but
invective proceeds from an enemy, and is intended to give pain or to
injure. Is followed by against ie: He
uttered severe invectives against the unfortunate general.
Adjective: Satirical, abusive, railing
No Lance, it is not my ignorance it is your lack of
understanding. You feed on SNL, Bono, Dylan etc. and the
fruit of it is an inability to discern a friend from an enemy.
I'm really sorry about that.
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:57:30 -0500 "Lance Muir"
< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
I've always thought you unaware of the
hurt (read 'invective-filled language) you do to others through your
speach, Judy. I stand by that. However, this doesn't mean you don't
do it. It just means that you don't know you're doing it,
IMO.
What "invective" filled language
Lance?
Examples please....
AND I DARESAY Judy, that your
invective-filled language on TT would equal or surpass that of
John Calvin WITHOUT QUESTION!! (In all candor so would mine,
Kevin's, Dean's, John's, and Linda's). The 'unnamed'
regularly display a model of 'engagement' that we all might
aspire to.
Cd: 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man'
says Dean Moore
Obviously spoken by someone who has never
read the man.
Not one who has ever read 'The Insitute'
would ever say such as this!
Borrow the 2 volume set, Dean.
Prayerfully, give it a few hours. You may thereafter wish to
apologize.
Noone who has ever read Alice in
Wonderland would ever say the Lewis Carroll
was a cocaine addict
either.
I daresay that right now
Dean knows more of Christ than Calvin did when he wrote
his
Institutes and isn't Christ
alone the standard for His followers and is He not the
same
yesterday, today, and forever -
unchanged by time or culture?
Calvin's actions were unbiblical in
the extreme but were consistent with his
theology
Isn't that fact reason enough to
question Calvinism itself and to examine it
carefully
from Scripture which is apparently
what Dean has been doing already?
I would say the advice above is
obviously spoken by someone who has never
read Dean - Why not take your own
advice Lance and you may thereafter wish
to apologize to him.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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