Re: [TruthTalk] JD finds what he claimed not to have received

[Kevin Deegan]

Judy How dare you, consistantly Ignore JD's Straw Man!

Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So you found it JD and it looks as though you are on a roll - an anti-Judy roll at that..... 

 

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:51:15 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From: Knpraise - You glibbly misuse this scripture while, at the same time,  consistently ignoring the problem that "infallible understanding" brings into the discussion.  

Who said anything about "infallible understanding" - I said "spiritually discerned"  Of course it is possible to

have the wrong spirit leading you around by the nose also which would put you on the other side.  

 

Actually, in my case, such is not possible if you reference The Demon god.   Secondly,  infallible understanding  and spiritually discerned are the same thing.  You claim that there is no interpretation  on your part  --  that God gives you understanding  (and I would assume the correct understanding).   Hence, the two phrases are the same.   If not, why not. 

 

You Judy, believe that both the bible  and your reading of the text are inspired  -   they cannot be wrong.  

 

Don't be telling me what I believe thank you very much. 

 

I am telling you what you told me. 

 

The problem with this assertion is manifold:   it does not allow for change of opinion on a given scripture because there is no opinion on scripture;

 

No there isn't JD.  Now we may be getting somewhere.  You must have read 2 Peter 1:20 after all.  

 

Hence  ,   infallible understanding.  

 

it places your understanding above all others  (Miller, deegan, Linda Shileds and even Barth) when there is a disagreement of meaning or terms;  

 

You sure like to get everyone in on the fracas don't you JD?  But you left out Terry, wonder if he feels rejected.  

 

I did no such thing.   I contrasted your infallible understanding with the interpretations of others on this forum.    David actually believes much the same as you.   When you two disagree,  who's right? 

 

it provides no reason for reconsidering a scripture;  and it actually renders verbal/plenary inspiration of the text (something you believe) as unnecessary in view of the fact that God provides not only the words but your understanding of the text; 

 

It sure does JD but it gives you plenty of room for error.  You choose whether or not you will do what it says.

in which case you are a doer of the Word rather than a deceived hearer of the Word plus Barth.

 

There is NO ROOM FOR ERROR, Judy.   We are talking about our understanding of scriptuire  -- not obedience.   And you continue the Lie against Barth.    So much for "obedience." 

 

it ignores the fact that there was no bible when Paul wrote I Co  --  only Jewish scripture and the church did not have ready access to most of those document copies. 

 

I don't see that the Bereans had much problem, even without the NT they searched the scriptures daily to see whether what Paul was teaching them was valid - What's more he called them "more honorable" for doing this. I think you go around looking for excuses and problems JD.  

 

You ignored my main point,  I think.   Didn't I ask about the possiblity that there were teachers in Berea?   You think this was a bunch of people without leadership????   Get real.   And what if apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers??    Why are they in the church.   To help us understand scripture, among other things.   Barth is just another teacher.   Jd

 

 

 

From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>

And I will simply say once more that the Word of God needs no "INTERPRETATION" and that this is the crux of

the problem.  Scripture can only be spiritually discerned. (1 Cor 2:14) so all of your theological "interpreters"

will in the last day prove to have been false prophets/teachers.

 

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:31:06 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

There most assuredly is. David Miller, Bill Taylor and John Smithson however, have demonstrated on numerous occasions, that it is NOT ALWAYS YOURS! To ward off yet another charge of blasphemy by David, I'll simply say that ALL INTERPRETATIONS OF SCRIPTURE ARE NEITHER EXHAUSTIVE NOR INFALLIBLE. That then, would include your interpretation(s) of Scripture would it not?

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Taylor

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: December 05, 2005 07:21

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

Meaning that everyone has their own Jesus and there is no standard of Truth?

 

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:16:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

The definitive answer to your query concerning 'your own Jesus' is...well...YES.

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

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