Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:57:40 -0800

I think I'm starting to understand what you mean by "drive by," and you're right. Being a full-time student and having a job leaves me with too little time to make my stay on TT worthwhile.

I'm signing off indefinately. Next semester will be even worse. Calculus 2, Statistics, Finance, oh my.

 JD wrote:
get the point ????

...No.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another successful   drive by .   Thanks Christine for your judgment on this matter.  I shall avoid Lance in the future  , and dean for differing reasons, and you, for ditto, and DM for still other reasons, and Judy for you know what, and Linda for who knows what and and and --------------  get the point ????
 
jd  
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:27:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

BINGO!

Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Lance wrote:
their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred.

Then you have no understanding of Christianity.

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
'People get passionate about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism & militant Zionism where their 'faith _expression_' borders on hatred. (IMO obviously).
----- Original Message -----
Sent: December 11, 2005 14:16
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

No, I have not read Bernard Lewis.

Yes, my teacher calls herself a practicing Muslim, but she is a progressive Muslim, which are typically non-Arabic Muslims that don't take the Koran seriously and are veeeery Left in their political leanings. She is a crusading feminist. She converted to Islam from Christianity. She is African-American and born in the US. From our discussions in class, she has almost no knowledge of traditional Islam. She could answer almost no questions. Fortunately, there were several Muslims in the class that could answer any inqueries.

The issue of terrorism was only addressed on the last day of class, and it was not pretty. She is racist against the Jews, believes Israel is to be blamed for our troubles, and believes we are only in Iraq for the oil. She made it very clear that the terrorists do not hate America for irrational reasons, they hate America because we are Evil. Israel is evil. Our military strength is evil. Not that any culture is any better than another culture, of course. If we changed our foreign policies terrorism threats would cease. Because the terrorists are rational. Not irrational.

Lance wrote:
Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?

I see a difference between lukewarm religion and radical religion, yes. I call myself a radical Christian, full of passion for Jesus Christ. I believe that there are lukewarm Muslims just like there are lukewarm Christians, who practice their religion shrugingly, not too interested in truth or righteousness.

But the catch is this: darkness is darkness. If you follow Allah, you are fighting for an untruth. And passion without holiness or light is a murderous force. Any passion that is not focused on the Light of the World will end in murder. Man is full of evil things, and the Koran does not provide the answer to all of the evil in Man. That is the dangerousness of the Koran.

People get passionate about its tradition s, but their passion is channeled into hate and selfishness. That is the fruit of the Koran.

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No/yes
 
Have you read Bernard Lewis on Islam? Was your teacher a Muslim? Was the issue of terrorism addressed? Do you see the similarities between a 'radical/fundamentalist' Muslim and a 'radical/fundamentalist' anything else?
 
---- Original Message -----
Sent: December 11, 2005 13:45
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

Do you speak/believe in the gift of tongues, Lance?

I've taken Calculus and Financial Accounting. Next up is Islam.

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I do, Christine.
 
Which courses are you being 'examined' on?
 
PS:I've met three 'prophets' in the last couple of years. Two of them are socially dysfunctional but, highly gifted. The other was in the store a week or two back and a group of us chatted for a couple of hours.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: December 10, 2005 20:23
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

Lance, I didn't know you believed in the gifts of the Spirit.

(Whew. Two final exams down, one to go.)

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I actually do, Judy. A prophet visited our store one week ago. God spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: December 10, 2005 14:41
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

 
If you really believe what you write here Lance then you need to be weeping between the porch and the
altar for us down here. Do you really think that if the US goes down - Canada will be left standing??
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
No you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it.
From: Judy Taylor
Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we
would do if we didn't have the Canadians keeping tabs on us.  We'd really
be in trouble then ...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:40:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Upset? No!  Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION!
> More
> pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.
>
> What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India.
> They,
> Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores.
> No more
> 'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and
> many,
> many more to come).
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
> Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20
> Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
>
>
> >
> > We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by
> e-mail,
> > and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found.
> It is
> > bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears,
> Target and
> > home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising
> "Holiday
> > sales".  When you walk in the stores you are greeted by
> salespeople with
> > "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings".  Target stores went so
> far as to
> > run the Salvation army off it's property.  No buckets or bell
> ringers
& gt; > there anymore.
> > This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming
> Christ should
> > be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are
> there is
> > not to proclaim Christ, but to make money.  If they mentioned
> Christ mas,
> > it would only be lip service.
> >
> > Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we
> try to
> > remove the speck from their's.  It seems that since Christmas
> falls on
> > Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So
> that
> > people can spend time with their families".  That, to me, is soooo
> stupid.
> > Why not take the family to church?  What am I missing here?
> > The words of Jesus keep running through my mind.  "If you do not
> love me
> > more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot
> be
> > Mine.
> >
> > Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this?  Is there
>
> > something here I don't see?  Am I too critical?  Your thoughts?
> > Terry
> > ----------
> > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that
> you may
> > know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

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