I, for one, have no difficulty at all criticizing
the'deceived' as you put it, Judy. The difficulty is that some who are, in
reality deceived, believe themselves to be 'in the truth' do they
not?
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and
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Meaning that all evangelism and preaching the gospel
should cease because we can not be
critical of anyones beliefs because this is
criticizing them personally?? IOW let the deceived
stay captive to the devil. Lord forbid that we
should offend anyone. Is Jesus a stumbling stone
and a rock of offense ... or has he now become
fashionable in his new "living" form?
You really don't get it do you?
If I were to criticize your beliefs then, I am criticizing your
person
OK so we should not criticize beliefs.
But criticizing the person is OK in your book
Good ol Self Refutin Lance...
Kevin, this so-called anti-Mormon kick
you're on seems to be about all you've got goin' for
ya..
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
You really don't get it do you? If I were to criticize
your beliefs then, I am criticizing your person
No you wouldn't be because you don't know
my person. What you are talking about is religious/racial
bigotry
which is a misnomer. It is possible to
love the person and reject their belief. God did it when he sent
Jesus
Jesus did it when he hung on the cross -
and we can do it as His Ambassadors in a world full of sin and
strife.
You really don't get it do you? If I were to criticize
your beliefs then, I am criticizing your person and, vice versa. Kevin
et al do the same with the Mormons.
I've asked you previously. I shall ask you once again.
Is there a great gulf between who you are and what you say (believe)?
Now if you had said Joseph Smith
& Brigham Young your observation may have carried some
weight
Lance. However, I've yet to
see Kevin comment on Blaine or DaveH personally, it's their false
belief system he takes
issue with and in doing this he confronts
them with their own contradictions.
OR YOUR OPINIONS OF BLAINE & DAVEH THAT'S
CALLED ANTI MORMONISM!! Come to think of it, Kevin,
this so-called anti-Mormon kick you're on seems to
be about all you've got goin' for ya..
This list is called Truth Talk Lance. It
is not all about your opinions or me.
OR Lance's opinions OF you and others!
This list is called Truth Talk Lance.
It is not all about your opinions or me.
Let me attempt something, Judy. WITH WHAT
FREQUENCY THEN, DO YOU EXHIBIT THIS 'TRUE
HIMILITY'?
True humility Lance is saying what
God says about a situation or subject; personal opinion,
even
while grovelling while saying it is
inverted pride. When a preacher gets out there with a
megaphone
and accurately speaks the oracles
of God .. that is true humility. Or of one speaks them
to a friend in
private - this is also laying down
their own life. Because God's Word is that around
which the battle
rages.
There are two on TT who regularly write
reflecting humility. I'm suspect of one of them but,
that's because I don't, perhaps.
I
see. Is this then the sin of the parents, or the
world, or the parson with low esteem? How would this
condition add to or subtract from one's ability to do
what Jesus suggests in the sermon on the mount? I
am too lazy to look it up but it seems to me that He
came to town meek and lowly, riding on a colt.
Possibly as an example to us? To be quite honest, I
do not see low esteem as a problem on TT. Do
you? Terry
Judy Taylor wrote:
Self rejection
happens when children are either rejected by
parents or have overly critical parents.
When
one is raised in an
unloving atmosphere they tend to accept the lie that
this is because they are unlovable making
it difficult to understand or
receive the love of God.
The world adds to the problem
with unrealistic standards especially in the area of
perfection and body image -
thinness for women and Gk
perfection for men and too many times this becomes
a graven image or idol and
people reject themselves when
they don't measure up rather than giving thanks for
being fearfully and
wonderfully
made.
Could you explain what you mean by self
rejection?
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry,
I don't know that any of
us would say that they are "self satisfied" in
fact not even Paul himself said that.
What he did say is that
he didn't know of any sin but that did not mean he
was justified completely before
the Lord. I would
say the same. At this point in my walk I see
self rejection just as sinful as the
ignorance
that comes with pride...
either way it is all self, self, self, self.
judyt
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
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