But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let's get this straight Lance - You were trying to tell me in a delicate way that I am deceived - and when I didn't bite you changed it to "fancy theologian" Why not just be up front like Dean and call me a liar? Why the constant games? And what's worse is that you don't ever speak only for yourself you are constantly trying to stir something up by including "others" in your observations; also you don't ever show any scriptural grounds for your accusations because that would take time and effort and you just might have to think rather than shoot off the cuff.On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:25:36 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Web Dfn:'Fancy':illusion:something many people believe that is false. I ask of those with whom others has disagreed, either mildly or vehemently, does that one believe your theology to have been 'fancy'? I WOULD SAY SO, YES!From: Dean Moorecd: You are right on the money sister-hang in there:-)From: Judy TaylorThen it is past time to do some more figuring Lance because you have missed the boat so to speak. I am not about trying to explain God which is the Church Father/theologian forte. If He does not illumine His Word to you - then there is nothing I could say or do that would help.Hey out there!! Does anyone other than Lance think that I am a "FANCY THEOLOGIAN?" or is this another example of Lance's vivid imagination and fanciful thinking. judytOn Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:15:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Funny thing, Judy, I've always though of you as your own 'FANCY THEOLOGIAN'. Over time one cannot but note that others have thought similarly. The 'Judy theology' is generally well researched and, on the whole, readable.From: Judy TaylorAnd I've been attempting to say to you that there is such a thing as objective truth a light that shinesinto the darknes of the unregenerate human heart which is the Word of the Living God untainted andunfiltered through human reason and/or fancy theologians .... which, when we choose to abide thereinwill make us free.On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:50:57 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:That, Judy, is what I've been attempting to say, apparently with minimal success.From: Judy TaylorEvery deceived person believes themselves to be "in the truth"Deceived people don't know they are deceived - this is the nature of the beast.On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:43:47 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:I, for one, have no difficulty at all criticizing the'deceived' as you put it, Judy.The difficulty is that some who are, in reality deceived, believe themselves to be 'in the truth' do they not?From: Judy TaylorMeaning that all evangelism and preaching the gospel should cease because we can not becritical of anyones beliefs because this is criticizing them personally?? IOW let the deceivedstay captive to the devil. Lord forbid that we should offend anyone. Is Jesus a stumbling stoneand a rock of offense ... or has he now become fashionable in his new "living" form?On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:49:55 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:You really don't get it do you? If I were to criticize your beliefs then, I am criticizing your personOK so we should not criticize beliefs.But criticizing the person is OK in your bookGood ol Self Refutin Lance...Kevin, this so-called anti-Mormon kick you're on seems to be about all you've got goin' for ya..
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:You really don't get it do you? If I were to criticize your beliefs then, I am criticizing your personNo you wouldn't be because you don't know my person. What you are talking about is religious/racial bigotrywhich is a misnomer. It is possible to love the person and reject their belief. God did it when he sent JesusJesus did it when he hung on the cross - and we can do it as His Ambassadors in a world full of sin and strife.On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:37:20 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:You really don't get it do you? If I were to criticize your beliefs then, I am criticizing your person and, vice versa. Kevin et al do the same with the Mormons.I've asked you previously. I shall ask you once again. Is there a great gulf between who you are and what you say (believe)?From: Judy TaylorNow if you had said Joseph Smith & Brigham Young your observation may have carried some weightLance. However, I've yet to see Kevin comment on Blaine or DaveH personally, it's their false belief system he takes issue with and in doing this he confronts them with their own contradictions.On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:56:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:OR YOUR OPINIONS OF BLAINE & DAVEH THAT'S CALLED ANTI MORMONISM!! Come to think of it, Kevin,this so-called anti-Mormon kick you're on seems to be about all you've got goin' for ya..From: Kevin DeeganThis list is called Truth Talk Lance. It is not all about your opinions or me.OR Lance's opinions OF you and others!This list is called Truth Talk Lance. It is not all about your opinions or me.On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:51:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Let me attempt something, Judy. WITH WHAT FREQUENCY THEN, DO YOU EXHIBIT THIS 'TRUE HIMILITY'?From: Judy TaylorTrue humility Lance is saying what God says about a situation or subject; personal opinion, evenwhile grovelling while saying it is inverted pride. When a preacher gets out there with a megaphoneand accurately speaks the oracles of God .. that is true humility. Or of one speaks them to a friend inprivate - this is also laying down their own life. Because God's Word is that around which the battlerages.On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:33:54 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:There are two on TT who regularly write reflecting humility. I'm suspect of one of them but, that's because I don't, perhaps.From: Terry CliftonI see. Is this then the sin of the parents, or the world, or the parson with low esteem?
How would this condition add to or subtract from one's ability to do what Jesus suggests in the sermon on the mount? I am too lazy to look it up but it seems to me that He came to town meek and lowly, riding on a colt. Possibly as an example to us?
To be quite honest, I do not see low esteem as a problem on TT. Do you?
Terry
Judy Taylor wrote:Self rejection happens when children are either rejected by parents or have overly critical parents. Whenone is raised in an unloving atmosphere they tend to accept the lie that this is because they are unlovable makingit difficult to understand or receive the love of God.The world adds to the problem with unrealistic standards especially in the area of perfection and body image -thinness for women and Gk perfection for men and too many times this becomes a graven image or idol andpeople reject themselves when they don't measure up rather than giving thanks for being fearfully and wonderfullymade.On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:14:35 -0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Could you explain what you mean by self rejection?
Judy Taylor wrote:Hi Terry,I don't know that any of us would say that they are "self satisfied" in fact not even Paul himself said that.What he did say is that he didn't know of any sin but that did not mean he was justified completely beforethe Lord. I would say the same. At this point in my walk I see self rejection just as sinful as the ignorancethat comes with pride... either way it is all self, self, self, self. judyt
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He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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