Drop it David. My conversation with you is just that.
jd
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> None of her concern? We were talking about her, and about my ability to
> read her. A wise man receives correction, but a fool becomes scornful.
>
> David Miller.
>
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> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel
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>
> IThis is none of your concern, Judy. Go correct one of your kids or
> something.
>
> jd
>
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> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:08:41 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I respectfully disagree. jd
& gt;
> About what JD?
> He is right on. I do believe that unregenerated men can decide to stop doing
> something they are told is wrong otherwise civil government would be
> pointless
> and we would be living in total anarchy.
>
>
> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > FWIW, from my perspective, Judy believes none of these things. In fact,
> > she
> > seems to believe that unregenerated man can choose to believe in Jesus
> > Christ. I have a different perspective that I would share with her if
> > there
> > were not so many other posts flying that take my time to read.. I believe
> > that it takes a work of the Holy Spirit to draw men and cause them to
> > believe. I tend to agree with the perspective that man is regenerated at
> > the
> > point just before believing because Jesus said that unless one is born
> > again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. How can an unregenerated man
> > believe in that which he cannot see?
> >
> > In any case, I'm sure Judy believes that unregenerated men can decide to
> > stop doing something that they have been told is wrong . Unregenerated man
> > also can decide to do something good, like give money to the poor, etc. I
> > do not think Judy would say that Christ stopped being God. This is a straw
> > man argument. Why don't you let her speak for herself rather than trying
> > to
> > speak for her?
> >
> > David Miller.
> >
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The mystery of Judy's gospel
> >
> >
> > 1. You believe that unregenerated man cannot do what is right. You have
> > stated that many times in the past. I was just hoping that you good
> > explain how that can be true with the example of Nineveh hanging over this
> > theological conclusion.
> >
> > 2. Secondly, you believe that Christ stopped being God in spite of the oft
> > quoted (by you) passage "God is the same yesterday, t oday, and forever."
> > I was hoping fo r an explanation of this, as well.
> >
> > Ask me a question, Judy, about my beliefs and I will be glad to answer it
> > emphatically , not fearing being "set up." I do not mind being responsible
> > for what I consider to be true. Could you please do the same? I doubt
> > anyone on this forum can tell the rest of us what you believe. Seriously
> >
> > jd
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: Judy Taylor
> >
> > God is the Creator of the ppl in Ni neveh also and He is merciful and
> > longsuffering enough
> > to want to give them one more chance which they took for a measure of time
> > even though they
> > regressed later and were eventually destroyed. Their response to Jonah's
> > warning bought
> > them some time but unfortunately they did not gain eternity.
> >
> > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:24:19 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > And what does that have to do with the people of Nineveh? They don't have
> > to have the
> > Spirit to do right as long as the preacher has the Spirit?
> >
> > jd
> >
> > From: Judy Taylor
> >
> > Yes ... and Jonah was called by God and anointed to speak by the Spirit of
> > God..
> >
> > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:15:38 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > But aren't you the one who preaches that one cannot do the works of God
> & gt; without the Spirit of God?
> > jd
> >
> > From: Judy Taylor
> >
> > Death reigned from Adam to Moses and it reigned over Nineveh in Jonah's
> > day.. So obviously
> > the wages of sin is death with or without a written Law. Jonah called on
> > these people to repent
> > and they did do that in sackcloth and ashes... even without theological
> > permission.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:36:00 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ast.net writes:
> > well, Nineveh was not under the Law. Jonah does not call them to the Law.
> > And it is the Law that defines sin to be sin. Can sin exist apart from
> > the law?
> > Paul says it does. Jonah is certainly not calling them to live their lives
> > as the
> > Jews lived theirs !! jd
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:56:35 -0500 "Lance Muir"
> > writes:
> > I'm with Bill on this one. God is with Bill on this one, IMO, of course.
> >
> > I'm not surprised since you and Bill are so into culture and all that -
> > but
> > don't bring God into your folly.
> > The pagan Persian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke
> > 11:32) And what do you
> > suppose his message to them was?
> > From: Judy Taylor
> >
> > How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after
> > all
> > it is his doctrine that claims one must be regenerated before it is
> > possible
> > to repent because o f "total depravity" and this comes out of a
> > misunderstanding of the spiritual realities involved.
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:21:05 -0500 "Lance Muir"
> > writes:
> > From: Debbie Sawczak
> > Is repentance part of the Gospel? Yes, the NT is replete with directives
> > to
> > repen t. But repentance is not a means by which or through which people are
> > saved. It is Jesus Christ who is our Savior. Salvation is in him, complete
> > with mediation on our behalf. Repentance is therefore our response to the
> > greatest news the world has ever heard; it is our response to the good
> > news
> > of Jesus Christ. Amen.
> >
> > Lance, I now see what you meant today about the exchange bw Bill and
> > David,
> > having read the full message from Bill. The above is the crux, isn't it?
> > It
> > (esp the part I bolded) reminds me of what Victor said numerous times in
> > his
> > Human Person course: I know Christ first of all, before anything else, as
> > my
> > Saviour. The accountability, the repentance, arise out of that.
> >
> > D
> >
> >
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