It is humanity which Christ came to save, Judy.
He did that by assuming human likeness.
What scripture do you base the above on
Bill? The same one from
Hebrews?
He was raised as well a human, Judy, and sits
at his Father's side: a human being.
So now you claim that a transformed body
without blood that is able to walk through
walls is in the likeness of our human
bodies Bill?
We will be resurrected human, as well
-- no longer with flesh and blood tainted body's
but with resurrected bodies; bodies
all-the-more human, Judy -- not un-human.
Really? This is "another gospel"
entirely - to claim that God just loves old nasty fallen
and mean humanity so much that He can't
do without each and every one in the same
heaven he cast the devil they are in cahoots with out of?
Do you cut out all the scriptures
that teach us the earthy is earthy so we must be
born into a New Creation and have a
complete overhaul to be fit for
heaven:
Our minds must be renewed (Rom
12:2)
Our souls need to be saved by the
engrafted word (James 1:21)
Our bodies must be transformed at the
last trump (1 Cor 15:52)
Cheeeesh,
That's what I say ... Judyt
Bill
Also "Flesh and blood DO NOT inherit
God's Kingdom" Bill so what would be the purpose??
"What would be the purpose" of what, Judy;
I don't understand the question.
Oh,
weren't we discussing your concept or marriage as a picture of the unity
of the Godhead?
The same is true with God. The bible
teaches that the Lord is "one" and it uses the same word when saying
this;
hence there is a oneness or unity
within the nature of God, a coming together of a plurality in
union
I am responding that God is a Spirit
and so the one flesh/marriage Godhead symbology kind of falls
flat.
So what would be the purpose of
illustrating God's Kingdom with something that can never inherit
it?
My hunch however is that it will be because
God so loved the world ...
Now where does the above fit into
this picture - says Judy scratching her head....
so
there is no way that this would be the same concept Bill.
Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not create
us in "their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).
OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and
what schism?
Oh, I thought you were married. The
bible says that you and your husband (if you had one) were to
become "one" flesh, in other words the two of you in coming
together would be united -- and not just physically, I might add;
it is the marriage "union" after all. The same is true with God.
The bible teaches that the Lord is "one" and it uses the same word
when saying this; hence there is a oneness or unity within the
nature of God, a coming together of a plurality in
union.
God is a Spirit (Jn
4:24) so there is no way that this would be the same concept
Bill.
Sure the Godhead are
One and united - in
Spirit.
And so, since you suggested that if
Christ be fully God and fully human there must be a schism, I was
just wondering about the schism you have with your man. Why
instead of schism aren't you united?
In marriage between
humans it is "one flesh" Bill
There would only be a schism between
the two natures of Christ if there were disunity between the
two.
The person of Christ had no disunity;
hence no schism. Bill
There would have been
disunity "big time" if he had a human nature - just like us and
was in fact wholly God ATST; schizophrenic would be the right term. Also "Flesh
and blood DO NOT inherit God's Kingdom" Bill so what would
be the
purpose??
OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband, and
what schism?
And while you're at it, will you
explain your schism with your husband, too?
(If this needs clarification,
just ask)
Bill
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Dean,
I think this is where "theology"
gets itself tied in knots. This is what JD has been
accusing me of for so long.
How ironic that his mentor
Bill would write something like this. I think Lance
just repeated it to qualify something.
So their Jesus must have a schism in his personality
(or nature). What about his saying to
Philip "If you have
seen me you have seen the Father" We know he
wasn't speaking of his physical body here; so does God
The Father also have a schismatic
personality.
cd: Judy can you define your usage of
'schismatic'.
Well, yes and no,
DH. I am included in that circle of love in the way
that Christ's humanity is included in that relationship.
But as the humanity of Christ
is not divine, neither am I divine.
cd: Lance at this point- How do you
define
"Divine"?
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