Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

[Judy Taylor]

 

 

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:51:05 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Do you know that he

was ever sick or infirm because of generational curses?  Oppressed by demons. Depressed?

 

Well, of course He got sick.  He was like us in every respect.  

 

**I said "do you KNOW" which means chapter and verse rather than speculation.

 

No one I know is demon oppressed as you count demons.   Depressed? 

 

**You don't know how or if I cound demons JD. Jesus depressed would also be demons and

lying spirits were afraid of him because He had their number.

 

He cried over Jerusalem. 

 

He was sad when he let the rich young ruler leave but didn't chase him down...

 

Angry?  You the scene at the Temple.  Impatient?  Will there be any faith when [I] return? 

 

Not fallen human anger which is selfish; his was zeal for God - Impatience? No an honest and

relevant question.

 

Mistaken in His opinions?  Sure  --  the wedding feast and His decision not to make the water [into] wine. 

 

He wasn't mistaken - he was pressured into doing something before he was ready.  Have you so far

found a fallen human being who could change water into wine??

 

Having to learn the lesson of discipline as a 12 year old  (although His answer to His parents question

 is truth -  you hear nothing of such actions again.) 

 

Was it him learning or the parents?  Today they would be investigated by Social Services for leaving

without a head count of their children.

 

It is a fact that He had to learn THE WAYS OF LIFE   (Acts

 

Scripture please JD.....

 

 

From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 

 

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:10 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man?

 

It's Bill, but I would say that Christ's human nature was the same as common man -- or statements like

"he learned obedience from the things he suffered" would be meaningless, or at least irrelevant to us in our state.

 

What things do you know that He suffered that are relevant to our state Bill?  Do you know that he

was ever sick or infirm because of generational curses?  Oppressed by demons. Depressed?

 

It was his divine nature that was great, Dean, and in that he was unlike us, as we do not have a divine nature,

 

Anyone who has been born of the Spirit is well on the road to becoming a partaker of the divine

nature Bill see 2 Pet 1:14, 2 Cor 3:18, Heb 12:10.

 

but at no time did his divinity overwhelm his humanity; instead it came alongside and worked in unison with his

human nature, producing obedience rather than sin.  Bill

From: Dean Moore

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From: Taylor

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 1/16/2006 7:34:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither God nor Man

Luke writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act 2.30): hence he was not some kind of new humanity, freshly brewed with new material, unrelated to fallen humankind; No, he is human like David was human, born on our side of the fall.

 

And to the naysayers Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM"; hence Jesus pre-dated even Abraham, David' predecessor. But it was not his humanity which pre-dated David; it was his divinity. And notice: he did not say that his Father was the I AM, and that he was copying him. No, Jesus said that he (and this before his glorification) is I AM; that is, Yahweh, the LORD who covenants with Abraham. 

 

Jesus is FULLY GOD and fully man, two realities in one person, united -- but make him anything less than God or anything more than man and you are courting a demon, who is powerless to save you.

 

Bill 

cd: Jd would you say Christ was the same as common man?

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