John, are you getting paranoid? Nobody accused you of preaching the
occult. Also, I hope you understand the difference between 'cult' and
'occult.'
David Miller.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:25
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to
understanding
Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this list to
the local BSF. Wonder what they will say !! It will describe
a person I am dealing with who believes the following:
1. Adam and Eve were spirit beings before the fall -- their
flesh being changed afterwards.
2. Christ is not the "eternal " Son of God.
3. Christ was of human flesh for only 3 1/2
years.
4. Christ was not the physical descendent of David -
only in some spiritual sense.
5. Christ was not "God on earth" during His ministry.
6. The "Trinity" is false doctrine.
7. God is male and has a penis.
8. God illuminates His disciples to the extent that
discussion and books are not necessary. Because of this
"illumination," the understanding of acripture can
be "received" from the Spirit without fear of being wrong.
Those who have this Spirit cannot be mistaken when it comes to the Bible and
what it means to say. And those who disagree
with this are false teachers and need to be opposed.
9. The old law is binding and continues to be something we
must obey.
I would add to this list -- but I am sure this will
be sufficent .
Dean, you and Judy are the very definition of
"cult!!" but nice try. And what do you want to bet that BSF
will not agree?
By the way - you are the one who has set the tone for
this response. This is the fruit of your ministry.
Accusing me of preaching the occult is not going to fly.
jd
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From: Judy Taylor
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.Amen Dean,
JD I figure you were thinking of Proverbs
11:14b when you wrote what you say below ie: "in the multitude
of
counsellors there is safety" However the
"counsellors" referred to in Proverbs ARE those of God's Word
or
the Biblical text as you call it.
They all say the same thing by the same Spirit and this is the counsel
in which
we find safety. Groupthink??
Anathema!!
cd: A very good definition of
the birth of a cult John. No one truth to live by but group thinking-No
standards to point our error if the group agrees with the present
circumstance-I can see why your group don't like preaching such as David
does-the one is dominated by the many as his voice is lost in the power of
the mass.
JD writes:
In the biblical concept
of the church
I see an avenue for continuing revelation, and if not
revelation, certainly
interpretation or understanding.
If you will, it is in the counsel of many that our understanding of the biblical
text is expanded and/or confirmed. How important, it is,
then, that the church
continue to meet in forums such as this -- whether virtual or physical.
A community of Being
reveals Himself to a community of Believers and it is out of this
communal reality that our understanding of God and His t houghts is
borne.
jd