I have not yet responded because I do not know how to approach this bit of detective work?    That there is much more going on here than meets the eye or might be admitted is more than obvious.   This comes from an apostle/ prophet ("as in apostles and prophets") who rejects any questioning that seeks some degree of confirmation for his own cliams.  
 
But I do plan on some kind of answer.  It's just surprising to realize that David took time out of his busy day at the Univerisity and software sales to research as much as posible his old buddy,  John Smithson.  Should I return the favor?  Nay.  I already know all I need to know about our good list owner. 
 
jd 
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> IFO am 'dazzled'. Anyone else 'dazzled'?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: February 15, 2006 15:16
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding
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>
> > John wrote:
> >>>> ... I speak as one who is leadership.
> >
> > David wrote:
> >>> What is your leadership position
> >>> in your local church?
> >
> > John wrote:
> >> Pastor. I am one no matter where I
> >> attend. Does it sound arrogant for me
> >> to tell you that I am the pastor of Sanger,
> >> California?
> >
> > No, not necessarily, but the way you have answered this is a little
> > perplexing.
> >
> > I see that Joe Villalobos is the pastor of record for Sanger Foursquare
> > Church, 831 O St., Sanger, California. Do you consider Joe to be your
> > pastor? Would you mind if I called him and talked to him about your
> > leadership role in the church?
> >
> > Or is your fellow pastor someone else? Roger Whitlow, Carlos Avila, Keith
> > Jizmejian, or Willard Wolverton?
> >
> > Who is in leadership with you in your gift of pastor?
> >
> > David Miller.
> >
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> > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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