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Why not do something about Drunk driving?
or would that cut into government profits?
There were 16,694 alcohol-related fatalities in 2004 more than US deaths in Iraq
Why are road blocks never set up in the bar district?
cd: Revenue from the bar district? Maybe:-)
Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree with you, but I would not blame all tradition (which is what religion is, ultimately, no?). Religion has become been used for evil because man is evil. It's like the old adage about whether or not guns kill people, or people kill people.
But just because the answer is "people" does not necessarily mean that you shouldn't put some restictions on the process for purchasing a fire arm. The problem with religion (and also gun control) is that man would still be evil, even without religion and guns.
But I agree with what you have written, Lance. :-)
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Were 'religion' to be characterized as (wo)man's self-generated effort at redemption then, I'd say that it IS responsible for much of the evil in the world. Religion is very big in church.
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Sent: March 03, 2006 18:27
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G, the lyrics fantacize about a world where there is no God, no consequences for our actions. It's also based on the false idea that man has no fallen nature.
And, most offensive to me, it blames the evil in the world on religion, not on our fallen nature. Religion has been the scapegoat for a lot of evil in history and today. Do it in the name of God and you have a special type of defense. But we must recognize the religion isn't evil, tradition isn't evil, man is.
That idea is the foundation of our gospel. Man is fallen and needs a savior. Lennon's song refutes that foundation and appeals to man's desire to deceive himself and to lay the blame for our sinful state on someone else, in this case, all religion.
Do you disagree?
Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
cd: Listen to the words G.
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Sent: 2/28/2006 11:48:18 PM
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Lennons song "Imagine" is an attack against God
how so, Bro?
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for ref:
Imagine
Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...
Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one. |
Writen by: John Lennon
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